Armenia, China and Russia lead Olympiad with one round to go

China, Armenia and Russia (in order of tie-break score) are sharing the lead at the Olympiad in Istanbul with just one round to go. In the 10th round China won against the USA, Russia was too strong for Argentina and Armenia defeated the Netherlands. In the women's section China and Russia are tied for first place. Saturday is a rest day; the final round will be played on Sunday.
An exciting match Russia-USA at the top boards | All photos by ChessVibes & David Llada, Arman Karakhayan and Anastasiya Karlovich courtesy of FIDE & the official website
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Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. After their dramatic victory over Russia the day before, in the penultimate round USA lost their match with China and with it the hopes to clinch gold at the Olympiad. Although 2-2 wouldn't have been a good result for either team, the way Alexander Onischuk lost the only decisive game of the match was cruel:

After the match Hikaru Nakamura sent out a tweet that many people interpreted as, well, not very positive for the team spirit:
The cruel and harsh reality of playing in a team chess event is that you are only as good as your teammates.
Ryan Emmett asked:
@GMHikaru was that tweet really necessary?
Ryan Philips put it more strongly:
@GMHikaru don't throw your teammates under the bus.
User @Squidditas tweeted:
@GMHikaru Bad form, old man. You're a true champion. Adopt a champion's magnanimity.
With some replies Nakamura then tried to explain that he didn't mean it that way.
@SonofPearl Funny how people seem to misconstrue certain comments as slights. We've had a great run, but we were hoping for more.
@ryannv I am simply making a general statement about team events. No need for everyone to freak out and assume there is more to it.
@Squidditas You need to calm down; I am making a general statement. Stop reading more into it.

In what seemed to be the easiest pairing for the leading teams, Russia could only win one game against Argentina. Diego Flores miscalculated at an early stage:
Dmitry Jakovenko has been very important for the Russians so far. He won many games, and this time he held a difficult ending.

Armenia also remained in shared first place by beating the Netherlands. Vladimir Akopian won against Ivan Sokolov and on board one Levon Aronian beat Anish Giri with Black:

Ukraine, now one point behind the leaders, kept medal chances alive by beating Azerbaijan 2.5-1.5, thanks to this smooth win by Ruslan Ponomariov:
After their loss USA finds itself in shared 5th place with Hungary, Germany and Poland. The last-round pairings at the top are Ukraine-China, Hungary-Armenia, Russia-Germany and Poland-USA.
Things are suddenly very exciting in the women's section as China surprisingly tied their match with the much weaker Kazakhstan ladies:
| Bo. | 1 | China (CHN) | Rtg | - | 22 | Kazakhstan (KAZ) | Rtg | 2 : 2 |
| 1/1 | GM | Hou, Yifan | 2599 | - | WIM | Nakhbayeva, Guliskhan | 2291 | ½ - ½ |
| 1/2 | GM | Zhao, Xue | 2549 | - | WIM | Dauletova, Gulmira | 2267 | 1 - 0 |
| 1/3 | WGM | Ju, Wenjun | 2528 | - | WIM | Saduakassova, Dinara | 2216 | ½ - ½ |
| 1/4 | WGM | Ding, Yixin | 2424 | - | WIM | Davletbayeva, Madina | 2165 | 0 - 1 |

The game where the underdog won was actually quite spectacular, especially at the end:
Russia crushed Armenia 3.5-0.5 but they're still second on tie-break. In the last round they'll have to show that they can do better against Kazakhstan, while China faces Bulgaria. The final round begins Sunday at 11:00 local time (10:00 CET or 04:00 EST).
Olympiad 2012 | Top results round 10
| Bo. | 6 | China (CHN) | Rtg | - | 5 | United States Of America (USA) | Rtg | 2½:1½ |
| 1/1 | GM | Wang, Hao | 2726 | - | GM | Nakamura, Hikaru | 2778 | ½ - ½ |
| 1/2 | GM | Wang, Yue | 2685 | - | GM | Kamsky, Gata | 2746 | ½ - ½ |
| 1/3 | GM | Ding, Liren | 2695 | - | GM | Onishuk, Alexander | 2666 | 1 - 0 |
| 1/4 | GM | Bu, Xiangzhi | 2670 | - | GM | Akobian, Varuzhan | 2617 | ½ - ½ |
| Bo. | 29 | Argentina (ARG) | Rtg | - | 1 | Russia (RUS) | Rtg | 1½:2½ |
| 2/1 | GM | Peralta, Fernando | 2606 | - | GM | Grischuk, Alexander | 2763 | ½ - ½ |
| 2/2 | GM | Flores, Diego | 2589 | - | GM | Karjakin, Sergey | 2785 | 0 - 1 |
| 2/3 | GM | Felgaer, Ruben | 2570 | - | GM | Tomashevsky, Evgeny | 2730 | ½ - ½ |
| 2/4 | GM | Mareco, Sandro | 2589 | - | GM | Jakovenko, Dmitry | 2722 | ½ - ½ |
| Bo. | 9 | Netherlands (NED) | Rtg | - | 3 | Armenia (ARM) | Rtg | 1 : 3 |
| 3/1 | GM | Giri, Anish | 2711 | - | GM | Aronian, Levon | 2816 | 0 - 1 |
| 3/2 | GM | Van Wely, Loek | 2691 | - | GM | Movsesian, Sergei | 2698 | ½ - ½ |
| 3/3 | GM | Sokolov, Ivan | 2696 | - | GM | Akopian, Vladimir | 2687 | 0 - 1 |
| 3/4 | GM | Smeets, Jan | 2608 | - | GM | Sargissian, Gabriel | 2693 | ½ - ½ |
| Bo. | 7 | Azerbaijan (AZE) | Rtg | - | 2 | Ukraine (UKR) | Rtg | 1½:2½ |
| 4/1 | GM | Radjabov, Teimour | 2788 | - | GM | Ivanchuk, Vassily | 2769 | ½ - ½ |
| 4/2 | GM | Safarli, Eltaj | 2620 | - | GM | Ponomariov, Ruslan | 2734 | 0 - 1 |
| 4/3 | GM | Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar | 2729 | - | GM | Volokitin, Andrei | 2709 | ½ - ½ |
| 4/4 | GM | Mamedov, Rauf | 2634 | - | GM | Moiseyenko, Aleksandr | 2706 | ½ - ½ |
| Bo. | 17 | Czech Republic (CZE) | Rtg | - | 16 | Poland (POL) | Rtg | 1 : 3 |
| 5/1 | GM | Laznicka, Viktor | 2683 | - | GM | Wojtaszek, Radoslaw | 2717 | 0 - 1 |
| 5/2 | GM | Navara, David | 2691 | - | GM | Socko, Bartosz | 2635 | 1 - 0 |
| 5/3 | GM | Hracek, Zbynek | 2619 | - | GM | Swiercz, Dariusz | 2594 | 0 - 1 |
| 5/4 | GM | Babula, Vlastimil | 2595 | - | GM | Macieja, Bartlomiej | 2594 | 0 - 1 |
| Bo. | 39 | Denmark (DEN) | Rtg | - | 4 | Hungary (HUN) | Rtg | 0 : 4 |
| 6/1 | GM | Hansen, Sune Berg | 2577 | - | GM | Leko, Peter | 2737 | 0 - 1 |
| 6/2 | GM | Aagaard, Jacob | 2517 | - | GM | Almasi, Zoltan | 2713 | 0 - 1 |
| 6/3 | GM | Rasmussen, Allan Stig | 2496 | - | GM | Polgar, Judit | 2698 | 0 - 1 |
| 6/4 | IM | Glud, Jakob Vang | 2498 | - | GM | Berkes, Ferenc | 2685 | 0 - 1 |
| Bo. | 32 | Belarus (BLR) | Rtg | - | 14 | Germany (GER) | Rtg | 1½:2½ |
| 7/1 | GM | Zhigalko, Sergei | 2667 | - | GM | Naiditsch, Arkadij | 2712 | ½ - ½ |
| 7/2 | GM | Zhigalko, Andrey | 2582 | - | GM | Meier, Georg | 2648 | ½ - ½ |
| 7/3 | GM | Teterev, Vitaly | 2528 | - | GM | Fridman, Daniel | 2653 | ½ - ½ |
| 7/4 | GM | Stupak, Kirill | 2523 | - | GM | Gustafsson, Jan | 2610 | 0 - 1 |
| Bo. | 35 | Philippines (PHI) | Rtg | - | 27 | Vietnam (VIE) | Rtg | 2 : 2 |
| 8/1 | GM | So, Wesley | 2652 | - | GM | Le, Quang Liem | 2693 | ½ - ½ |
| 8/2 | GM | Barbosa, Oliver | 2554 | - | GM | Nguyen, Ngoc Truong Son | 2639 | ½ - ½ |
| 8/3 | GM | Torre, Eugene | 2469 | - | IM | Nguyen, Van Huy | 2506 | ½ - ½ |
| 8/4 | GM | Paragua, Mark | 2508 | - | IM | Nguyen, Doc Hoa | 2505 | ½ - ½ |
| Bo. | 13 | India (IND) | Rtg | - | 15 | Cuba (CUB) | Rtg | 2 : 2 |
| 9/1 | GM | Sasikiran, Krishnan | 2707 | - | GM | Dominguez Perez, Leinier | 2725 | 0 - 1 |
| 9/2 | GM | Harikrishna, Pentala | 2685 | - | GM | Bruzon Batista, Lazaro | 2711 | 0 - 1 |
| 9/3 | GM | Negi, Parimarjan | 2664 | - | GM | Quesada Perez, Yuniesky | 2626 | 1 - 0 |
| 9/4 | GM | Gupta, Abhijeet | 2637 | - | IM | Bacallao Alonso, Yusnel | 2583 | 1 - 0 |
| Bo. | 12 | Israel (ISR) | Rtg | - | 26 | Georgia (GEO) | Rtg | 2 : 2 |
| 10/1 | GM | Gelfand, Boris | 2738 | - | GM | Mchedlishvili, Mikheil | 2659 | ½ - ½ |
| 10/2 | GM | Rodshtein, Maxim | 2642 | - | GM | Gagunashvili, Merab | 2578 | ½ - ½ |
| 10/3 | GM | Postny, Evgeny | 2638 | - | GM | Pantsulaia, Levan | 2575 | 1 - 0 |
| 10/4 | GM | Avrukh, Boris | 2605 | - | GM | Shanava, Konstantine | 2569 | 0 - 1 |
Olympiad 2012 | Round 10 standings (top 30)
| Rk. | SNo | Team | Rounds | + | = | - | TB1 | TB2 | TB3 | TB4 |
| 1 | 6 | China | 10 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 17 | 343,5 | 28,5 | 127 |
| 2 | 3 | Armenia | 10 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 17 | 336,5 | 26,5 | 132 |
| 3 | 1 | Russia | 10 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 17 | 321,5 | 25,5 | 132 |
| 4 | 2 | Ukraine | 10 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 16 | 292,5 | 26,5 | 121 |
| 5 | 4 | Hungary | 10 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 311,5 | 26,5 | 122 |
| 6 | 5 | United States Of America | 10 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 15 | 307 | 27,5 | 120 |
| 7 | 14 | Germany | 10 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 15 | 282 | 25 | 120 |
| 8 | 16 | Poland | 10 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 259 | 26 | 113 |
| 9 | 29 | Argentina | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 270 | 24 | 118 |
| 10 | 33 | Uzbekistan | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 269 | 26 | 114 |
| 11 | 35 | Philippines | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 268 | 25 | 122 |
| 12 | 25 | Romania | 10 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 257,5 | 26 | 109 |
| 13 | 9 | Netherlands | 10 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 252 | 26 | 109 |
| 14 | 28 | Slovenia | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 249,5 | 22,5 | 113 |
| 15 | 27 | Vietnam | 10 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 14 | 246,5 | 26 | 103 |
| 16 | 7 | Azerbaijan | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 289 | 26,5 | 122 |
| 17 | 17 | Czech Republic | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 284 | 25 | 115 |
| 18 | 15 | Cuba | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 281 | 28 | 107 |
| 19 | 32 | Belarus | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 270,5 | 25 | 109 |
| 20 | 13 | India | 10 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 13 | 266 | 24 | 120 |
| 21 | 26 | Georgia | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 264 | 25,5 | 114 |
| 22 | 21 | Greece | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 255,5 | 27,5 | 105 |
| 23 | 11 | England | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 252 | 23,5 | 116 |
| 24 | 12 | Israel | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 248 | 23 | 112 |
| 25 | 18 | Spain | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 247,5 | 24 | 116 |
| 26 | 24 | Brazil | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 247 | 23 | 109 |
| 27 | 20 | Serbia | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 245,5 | 25,5 | 107 |
| 28 | 34 | Sweden | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 234 | 25 | 101 |
| 29 | 22 | Italy | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 227,5 | 24,5 | 109 |
| 30 | 42 | Slovakia | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 218,5 | 25 | 102 |
Women's Olympiad 2012 | Top results round 10
| Bo. | 1 | China (CHN) | Rtg | - | 22 | Kazakhstan (KAZ) | Rtg | 2 : 2 |
| 1/1 | GM | Hou, Yifan | 2599 | - | WIM | Nakhbayeva, Guliskhan | 2291 | ½ - ½ |
| 1/2 | GM | Zhao, Xue | 2549 | - | WIM | Dauletova, Gulmira | 2267 | 1 - 0 |
| 1/3 | WGM | Ju, Wenjun | 2528 | - | WIM | Saduakassova, Dinara | 2216 | ½ - ½ |
| 1/4 | WGM | Ding, Yixin | 2424 | - | WIM | Davletbayeva, Madina | 2165 | 0 - 1 |
| Bo. | 8 | Armenia (ARM) | Rtg | - | 2 | Russia (RUS) | Rtg | ½ :3½ |
| 2/1 | GM | Danielian, Elina | 2476 | - | GM | Kosintseva, Tatiana | 2530 | 0 - 1 |
| 2/2 | IM | Mkrtchian, Lilit | 2454 | - | IM | Gunina, Valentina | 2507 | 0 - 1 |
| 2/3 | IM | Galojan, Lilit | 2349 | - | GM | Kosteniuk, Alexandra | 2489 | ½ - ½ |
| 2/4 | WGM | Kursova, Maria | 2338 | - | WGM | Pogonina, Natalija | 2448 | 0 - 1 |
| Bo. | 4 | Ukraine (UKR) | Rtg | - | 7 | Poland (POL) | Rtg | 2½:1½ |
| 3/1 | GM | Lahno, Kateryna | 2542 | - | GM | Socko, Monika | 2467 | ½ - ½ |
| 3/2 | GM | Zhukova, Natalia | 2442 | - | IM | Rajlich, Iweta | 2412 | 1 - 0 |
| 3/3 | IM | Ushenina, Anna | 2433 | - | WGM | Zawadzka, Jolanta | 2377 | ½ - ½ |
| 3/4 | IM | Yanovska, Inna | 2404 | - | WGM | Szczepkowska, Karina | 2375 | ½ - ½ |
| Bo. | 27 | Azerbaijan (AZE) | Rtg | - | 14 | France (FRA) | Rtg | 1½:2½ |
| 4/1 | WGM | Mamedjarova, Zeinab | 2285 | - | IM | Skripchenko, Almira | 2442 | 0 - 1 |
| 4/2 | WGM | Mammadova, Gulnar | 2324 | - | WGM | Maisuradze, Nino | 2284 | 1 - 0 |
| 4/3 | WGM | Mamedjarova, Turkan | 2245 | - | IM | Collas, Silvia | 2261 | ½ - ½ |
| 4/4 | WIM | Umudova, Nargiz | 2208 | - | WIM | Bollengier, Andreea | 2253 | 0 - 1 |
| Bo. | 6 | India (IND) | Rtg | - | 25 | Israel (ISR) | Rtg | 3½: ½ |
| 5/1 | GM | Dronavalli, Harika | 2503 | - | WIM | Porat, Maya | 2295 | 1 - 0 |
| 5/2 | IM | Sachdev, Tania | 2379 | - | WIM | Efroimski, Marsel | 2174 | 1 - 0 |
| 5/3 | WGM | Gomes, Mary Ann | 2396 | - | IM | Klinova, Masha | 2317 | ½ - ½ |
| 5/4 | WGM | Soumya, Swaminathan | 2271 | - | WFM | Shvayger, Yuliya | 2202 | 1 - 0 |
| Bo. | 9 | Germany (GER) | Rtg | - | 11 | Spain (ESP) | Rtg | 3 : 1 |
| 6/1 | IM | Paehtz, Elisabeth | 2483 | - | WGM | Matnadze, Ana | 2422 | 1 - 0 |
| 6/2 | WGM | Melamed, Tetyana | 2356 | - | IM | Alexandrova, Olga | 2417 | ½ - ½ |
| 6/3 | WGM | Ohme, Melanie | 2337 | - | WGM | Vega Gutierrez, Sabrina | 2355 | ½ - ½ |
| 6/4 | WGM | Michna, Marta | 2380 | - | WGM | Calzetta Ruiz, Monica | 2276 | 1 - 0 |
Women's Olympiad 2012 | Round 10 standings (top 20)
| Rk. | SNo | Team | Rounds | + | = | - | TB1 | TB2 | TB3 | TB4 |
| 1 | 1 | China | 10 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 17 | 357 | 29 | 131 |
| 2 | 2 | Russia | 10 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 17 | 348 | 29 | 126 |
| 3 | 4 | Ukraine | 10 | 6 | 4 | 0 | 16 | 325 | 27 | 127 |
| 4 | 14 | France | 10 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 294 | 27,5 | 120 |
| 5 | 22 | Kazakhstan | 10 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 15 | 281 | 27 | 112 |
| 6 | 9 | Germany | 10 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 277,5 | 26,5 | 113 |
| 7 | 6 | India | 10 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 15 | 277,5 | 25,5 | 122 |
| 8 | 7 | Poland | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 282 | 26 | 122 |
| 9 | 13 | Bulgaria | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 260 | 26 | 107 |
| 10 | 8 | Armenia | 10 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 259,5 | 24 | 117 |
| 11 | 35 | Uzbekistan | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 259 | 24 | 118 |
| 12 | 10 | Romania | 10 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 253,5 | 26 | 105 |
| 13 | 37 | Peru | 10 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 229,5 | 24,5 | 104 |
| 14 | 3 | Georgia | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 280,5 | 26 | 119 |
| 15 | 25 | Israel | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 264 | 25,5 | 112 |
| 16 | 26 | Iran | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 261 | 27,5 | 107 |
| 17 | 5 | United States of America | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 260,5 | 26,5 | 109 |
| 18 | 27 | Azerbaijan | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 258,5 | 24,5 | 119 |
| 19 | 11 | Spain | 10 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 251 | 24 | 112 |
| 20 | 36 | Belarus | 10 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 13 | 245,5 | 26 | 101 |
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Comments
Bigglesworth
8 months 1 week ago
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Crude calculation of the tiebreaks suggests that to win on tiebreak, Russia has to be at least a full board point ahead of Armenia, which has to be at least a half board point ahead of China.
Implications:
1. If China wins, Russia is out of contention for gold - they would have to score 4-0 against Germany to have a chance. Armenia would have to score one more board point than China to win.
2. If only Russia and Armenia win, Russia will need to win at least 3.5-0.5 to beat Armenia on tiebreak.
In short, Russia's chances of gold are very slim due to their poor tiebreaks. If China wins, it will take a strong but not implausible showing from Armenia to overcome them on tiebreak. Armenian fans should send Ivanchuk, Ponomariov, and the rest of the Ukranian team positive energy, as they're Armenia's best hope of winning gold.
Bigglesworth
8 months 1 week ago
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Note: the above assumes that on average, the previous opponents of the top 3 teams will do the same as each other on Sunday tomorrow, which may or may not be a realistic assumption.
redivivo
8 months 1 week ago
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"Russia's chances of gold are very slim"
Russia should beat Germany, while it's probable that Ukraine won't lose to China and Hungary won't lose to Armenia. So I still think Russia are the favourites to win the gold, even if I also still think they haven't been particularly impressive. Their players are so much higher rated then those in the other teams that they shouldn't be in third place before the last round, but with all their regular boards performing below their rating it isn't easy even for Russia.
Kenji Margono
8 months 1 week ago
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As I noticed, the Russians didn't under-perform until Round 8. They beat strong candidates like Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Hungary and China. Only Armenia could hold them to a draw. But after gaining a clear 2-point lead at Round 8 they became overconfident and a bit arrogant.
We can see how Karjakin quickly drew with Onishuk though his Elo is 100 over more than his opponent's. He must think his teammates could easily beat their American sides so he just drew it quickly to rest and didn't manage for a win. (On the other hand, Chinese Ding Liren played hard and pressed Onishuk from the beginning not giving him moment to breathe.)
Then why did Kramnik sacrifice his rook for Nakamura's bishop in the 27th move without getting any marked positional advantage?
And why did Grischuk play so carelessly in a must draw game between rook bishop vs rook game?
So I think Russia lost to USA because they were looking down at the Americans thinking that USA came to Round 8 without facing strong teams.
Thomas
8 months 1 week ago
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I agree with your first paragraph, but I don't think Russia's loss against the USA was due to arrogance. It was simply a day when everything went wrong - "when it rains it pours".
Would you really expect Karjakin to play on with rook and four pawns vs. rook plus four pawns on the same wing? Another story is if he could have tried harder before - but it isn't easy to get an advantage on the black side of the Catalan if white plays solidly, and a different opening choice (which isn't part of his normal repertoire) might have backfired. Ding Liren had white against Onischuk.
Kramnik's exchange sacrifice seemed correct - if not for an advantage then for full compensation. Mistakes came later.
Grischuk's endgame mistake certainly wasn't arrogance but tiredness. Losing rook against rook plus bishop happened to others before - including Kamsky:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1543371
Maybe Russia was arrogant the next day against Argentina, starting with giving Kramnik a rest. But such (mis)matches can go either way: it can be a 'predictable' walkover, or it can turn out to be unexpectedly tough.
Kenji Margono
8 months 1 week ago
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Karjakin exchanged pieces so quickly making the game simple. With each side with rook + 4 pawns at the same side, of course clearly it is a draw position. But he didn't play for a win from the beginning. By exchanging lots of pieces early in the game, he just intended to make a quick draw. Even in Catalan opening, he should try to win and not bring the game to draw so quickly.
Cannot see how Kramnik could gain advantage by that sacrifice. It is risky if you play like that against a strong player. Well, Kramnik has not lost one game in his previous participations at Olympiad. Maybe because of that he became over confident.
Of course losing rook against rook + bishop happened before but it was very rare. I didn't say Grischuk was arrogant in this game. I said he was careless.
middlewave
8 months 1 week ago
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Nope. Board points are NOT the tie-break criterion. It is Olympic Sonnenborn-Berger, much more complicated than that.
Kenji Margono
8 months 1 week ago
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Do you know how to calculate Sonnenborn-Berger?
Arjo
8 months 1 week ago
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Strange to see 4/5 Russians underperforming (TPR compared to rating) and still sharing 1st place.
Anonymous
8 months 1 week ago
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is there no better system than swiss?
Sergio
8 months 1 week ago
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Yes double round robin, only problem is that it takes a few months.
Sergio
8 months 1 week ago
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Yes double round robin, only problem is that it takes a few months.
Thomas
8 months 1 week ago
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Underperforming and still sharing first place is the "privilege" of the nominally strongest team. And Grischuk and Karjakin needed to score an impossible 0.04 and 0.13 points, respectively, to confirm their ratings.
It's another story for the relative underdog China: They share first place because all players overperfom.
As to "no better system than swiss": It exists (round robin) and is called World Team Championship. But that's not feasible with 150 teams.
redivivo
8 months 1 week ago
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If Russia stays in third place it will be the fifth Olympiad in a row where they don't win as big favourites, after twelve Soviet/Russia wins in a row up until Kasparov's last Olympiad in 2002.
The biggest rating difference between the winners and Russia was Dresden 2008. The Russian team had an average rating of 2756 while Armenia was 2677 (79 points weaker per player). Also then all four regular boards underperformed while Jakovenko as reserve overperformed.
AljechinsCat
8 months 1 week ago
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Nakamura remains an idiot. Who would NOT read kicking at his teammates into his tweet ?
valg321
8 months 1 week ago
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he even implied in his standing interview a couple of days ago, that he's teammates are not performing as much as they should...that boy will never learn
Ed Dean
8 months 1 week ago
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"... USA lost their match with China and with it the hopes to clinch their first ever gold at an Olympiad."
It's been a while since they last did it, but USA does actually have 5 previous golds at Olympiads (1931, 1933, 1935, 1937, 1976).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_Olympiad#Total_team_ranking
Peter Doggers
8 months 1 week ago
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Thanks, removed that, should have checked it first.
damian
8 months 1 week ago
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IS KASPAROV SUPPORTING USA TEAM ?
Because I can see in the photo, Nakamura wearing a polo which shaw the name Kasparov on the sleeve.
Kronsteen
8 months 1 week ago
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Awesome job by H-Bomb. Would have been nice to see Big Vlad make him demonstrate the B+N mate!
Anonymous
8 months 1 week ago
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I don't think GM tweets to their fans, or their comments in chess forums should make the chessvibes News column. If Nakamura wants to mix it up with the patzers during his private time, let him.
jin
8 months 1 week ago
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i know MrH done many dumb things before but this time, I really lost my respect to him.
GoUSA!
8 months 1 week ago
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RE: USA
I think the U.S team did awesome beating the Russians. Those guys are all 2700s and very scary.
But the highs have the lows. Losing to China was devastating (to me). I hope the team rebounds and wins enough points in the last round to get a medal.
RE: Naka's tweet.
I think it was not directed at anyone. He almost lost to China himself and only managed to draw. If he had won, yeah, that's pretty low to tweet that. Besides, drawing China or losing by a close margin is not a big difference.Thus, it's all overblown.
Good luck to both our USA teams tomorrow!
valg321
8 months 1 week ago
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a few weeks ago, when his live rating was toe to toe with Caruana's he tweeted complaining that Fabiano plays with many lower-rated GM's to catch up on him.
At that time i thought he outdid himself, but then i remembered he also said that Kasparov's only edge against his opponents were his openings.
GoUSA!
8 months 1 week ago
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Well... I didn't know that. Not a way to win friends or respect, that's for sure.
He's our only top 5-player and hope for a US World Champion in the next five years. I'm trying to root for him. He sure makes it tough!
But think about it. If Fischer were alive, in his prime, and playing now, we'd have to put up with a whole lot more as fans!
I wish Naka would learn from Yasser Seirawan's classiness. One can hope!
Anonymous
8 months 1 week ago
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Why does Mamedyarov not play board 2? Many a match has now been lost by Azeris with a sole loss on board 2.
Anonymous
8 months 1 week ago
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Because Mamedyarov is a killer against weaker opposition. They put the other guy on board 2 to make a draw but sometimes not everything goes as planned. If only they had Gashimov here, they would have a really good chance of playing for the gold.
jin
8 months 1 week ago
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u allowed to to put stronger player at lower board?sounds unprofessional seeing all team put their best players at Table 1 , then 2 to 4. Is there like rule to put according to Elo?
Anonymous
8 months 1 week ago
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There's no rule for board placements. The disadvantage of having a stronger player at a lower board is that there is a weaker player at the higher board as the Azeri team has. We'll never know for sure, but I don't think this strategy was better. Especially since Safarli is much lower rated. Perhaps teams like Russia can try this more successfully as their lower boards are marginally lower than top boards.
Thomas
8 months 1 week ago
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Azerbaijan tried this strategy several times before: sometimes it worked (as at the European Team Championship 2009), sometimes it didn't. The 'conventional' strategy with the highest-rated players on the top boards at the last two Olympiads (2008 with Mamedyarov on board 2 behind Radjabov, 2010 with Mamedyarov on board 1 as he was the highest-rated player at the time) didn't work better.
The main weakening of Azerbaijan is that Gashimov doesn't play, but this time (unlike before) it wasn't a deliberate decision.
Ed Dean
8 months 1 week ago
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You can choose to put them in any order you like, but once you do it's set. You don't get to switch the order up between rounds to try and grab an advantage that way. Note, for example, that the Russian team played Grischuk above Karjakin this Olympiad (though the latter has is rated 20 points higher).
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