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New FIDE ratings: Carlsen not second

30 June 2008 17:17 PM

The 1 July rating list has already been published at the FIDE website. World champion Viswanathan Anand is topping the list alone, Morozevich has passed Kramnik on number of played games and Carlsen… is number six.

On the new FIDE rating list, Anand lost five points but he’s still first. Second is Alexander Morozevich, who won fourteen points and reached exactly the same rating as Vladimir Kramnik, who didn’t play a FIDE rated event and so automatically played “less” games for the list - the rule that’s applied for ranking players with the same rating.

Partly thanks to a great M-Tel Masters Ivanchuk won no less than 41 points but Topalov can be satisfied as well with a 10-point rise. Magnus Carlsen dropped a spot to a sixth place, but by now the whole world knows that virtually he’s been the world’s number two for weeks, as can be seen e.g. in the right column on this site.

After some inaccurate journalism on our side, we can now see on the 1 July list that the Foros tournament has indeed not been included by FIDE but you never know. Perhaps in a few days a corrected list will be published, which also happened last year.

Below you’ll find the new top 100, the 50 women, top 20 juniors and top 20 girls.

FIDE JULY 2008 RATING LIST: TOP 100 PLAYERS

Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
 1  Anand, Viswanathan  g  IND  2798  2  1969
 2  Morozevich, Alexander  g  RUS  2788  20  1977
 3  Kramnik, Vladimir  g  RUS  2788  0  1975
 4  Ivanchuk, Vassily  g  UKR  2781  25  1969
 5  Topalov, Veselin  g  BUL  2777  10  1975
 6  Carlsen, Magnus  g  NOR  2775  16  1990
 7  Radjabov, Teimour  g  AZE  2744  31  1987
 8  Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar  g  AZE  2742  23  1985
 9  Shirov, Alexei  g  ESP  2741  11  1972
 10  Leko, Peter  g  HUN  2741  0  1979
 11  Svidler, Peter  g  RUS  2738  32  1976
 12  Aronian, Levon  g  ARM  2737  11  1982
 13  Adams, Michael  g  ENG  2735  20  1971
 14  Grischuk, Alexander  g  RUS  2728  21  1983
 15  Karjakin, Sergey  g  UKR  2727  27  1990
 16  Movsesian, Sergei  g  SVK  2723  53  1978
 17  Kamsky, Gata  g  USA  2723  28  1974
 18  Gelfand, Boris  g  ISR  2720  10  1968
 19  Ponomariov, Ruslan  g  UKR  2718  10  1983
 20  Gashimov, Vugar  g  AZE  2717  34  1986
 21  Eljanov, Pavel  g  UKR  2716  23  1983
 22  Polgar, Judit  g  HUN  2711  3  1976
 23  Bu, Xiangzhi  g  CHN  2710  25  1985
 24  Jakovenko, Dmitry  g  RUS  2709  20  1983
 25  Dominguez Perez, Leinier  g  CUB  2708  19  1983
 26  Alekseev, Evgeny  g  RUS  2708  12  1985
 27  Ni, Hua  g  CHN  2705  28  1983
 28  Milov, Vadim  g  SUI  2705  16  1972
 29  Wang, Yue  g  CHN  2704  28  1987
 30  Rublevsky, Sergei  g  RUS  2699  10  1974
 31  Nakamura, Hikaru  g  USA  2697  27  1987
 32  Nisipeanu, Liviu-Dieter  g  ROU  2692  26  1976
 33  Bacrot, Etienne  g  FRA  2691  37  1983
 34  Wang, Hao  g  CHN  2691  28  1989
 35  Malakhov, Vladimir  g  RUS  2689  11  1980
 36  Cheparinov, Ivan  g  BUL  2687  23  1986
 37  Bologan, Viktor  g  MDA  2686  33  1971
 38  Sasikiran, Krishnan  g  IND  2684  18  1981
 39  Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime  g  FRA  2681  35  1990
 40  Roiz, Michael  g  ISR  2680  32  1983
 41  Kasimdzhanov, Rustam  g  UZB  2679  25  1979
 42  Inarkiev, Ernesto  g  RUS  2675  29  1985
 43  Motylev, Alexander  g  RUS  2674  23  1979
 44  Fressinet, Laurent  g  FRA  2673  41  1981
 45  Akopian, Vladimir  g  ARM  2673  17  1971
 46  Volokitin, Andrei  g  UKR  2672  31  1986
 47  Georgiev, Kiril  g  BUL  2671  32  1965
 48  Efimenko, Zahar  g  UKR  2670  40  1985
 49  Najer, Evgeniy  g  RUS  2670  38  1977
 50  Onischuk, Alexander  g  USA  2670  21  1975
 51  Nikolic, Predrag  g  BIH  2669  28  1960
 52  Almasi, Zoltan  g  HUN  2668  26  1976
 53  Harikrishna, P.  g  IND  2668  15  1986
 54  Naiditsch, Arkadij  g  GER  2665  42  1985
 55  Jobava, Baadur  g  GEO  2665  9  1983
 56  Areshchenko, Alexander  g  UKR  2664  40  1986
 57  Ivanisevic, Ivan  g  SRB  2664  31  1977
 58  Tkachiev, Vladislav  g  FRA  2664  18  1973
 59  Zvjaginsev, Vadim  g  RUS  2663  10  1976
 60  Postny, Evgeny  g  ISR  2661  35  1981
 61  Sargissian, Gabriel  g  ARM  2660  33  1983
 62  Tregubov, Pavel V.  g  RUS  2658  36  1971
 63  Sokolov, Ivan  g  NED  2658  27  1968
 64  Dreev, Alexey  g  RUS  2657  17  1969
 65  Lautier, Joel  g  FRA  2657  0  1973
 66  Avrukh, Boris  g  ISR  2656  35  1978
 67  Khenkin, Igor  g  GER  2655  45  1968
 68  Short, Nigel D  g  ENG  2655  25  1965
 69  Bareev, Evgeny  g  RUS  2655  7  1966
 70  Sutovsky, Emil  g  ISR  2654  28  1977
 71  Nielsen, Peter Heine  g  DEN  2652  42  1973
 72  Karpov, Anatoly  g  RUS  2651  3  1951
 73  Timofeev, Artyom  g  RUS  2650  40  1985
 74  Amonatov, Farrukh  g  TJK  2650  28  1978
 75  Vallejo Pons, Francisco  g  ESP  2650  27  1982
 76  Navara, David  g  CZE  2646  43  1985
 77  Tomashevsky, Evgeny  g  RUS  2646  21  1987
 78  Afromeev, Vladimir  f  RUS  2646  0  1954
 79  Tiviakov, Sergei  g  NED  2645  42  1973
 80  Berkes, Ferenc  g  HUN  2645  31  1985
 81  Van Wely, Loek  g  NED  2644  31  1972
 82  Guseinov, Gadir  g  AZE  2643  36  1986
 83  Zhang, Pengxiang  g  CHN  2643  24  1980
 84  Kazhgaleyev, Murtas  g  KAZ  2641  19  1973
 85  Grachev, Boris  g  RUS  2640  22  1986
 86  Nyback, Tomi  g  FIN  2639  34  1985
 87  Lastin, Alexander  g  RUS  2639  29  1976
 88  Krasenkow, Michal  g  POL  2639  26  1963
 89  Fridman, Daniel  g  GER  2637  49  1976
 90  Smirin, Ilia  g  ISR  2637  22  1968
 91  Istratescu, Andrei  g  ROU  2636  32  1975
 92  Volkov, Sergey  g  RUS  2636  19  1974
 93  Predojevic, Borki  g  BIH  2634  41  1987
 94  Khalifman, Alexander  g  RUS  2634  27  1966
 95  Sakaev, Konstantin  g  RUS  2634  22  1974
 96  Seirawan, Yasser  g  USA  2634  2  1960
 97  Moiseenko, Alexander  g  UKR  2632  27  1980
 98  Zhang, Zhong  g  SIN  2632  23  1978
 99  Sadvakasov, Darmen  g  KAZ  2632  9  1979
 100  Korneev, Oleg  g  RUS  2631  47  1969
 101  Baklan, Vladimir  g  UKR  2631  43  1978
 102  Gurevich, Mikhail  g  TUR  2631  31  1959
 103  Vescovi, Giovanni  g  BRA  2631  24  1978
 104  Ganguly, Surya Shekhar  g  IND  2631  17  1983



FIDE JULY 2008 RATING LIST: TOP 100 WOMEN

Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
 1  Polgar, Judit  g  HUN  2711  3  1976
 2  Koneru, Humpy  g  IND  2622  28  1987
 3  Xie, Jun  g  CHN  2574  0  1970
 4  Hou, Yifan  wg  CHN  2557  35  1994
 5  Stefanova, Antoaneta  g  BUL  2550  28  1979
 6  Cramling, Pia  g  SWE  2544  21  1963
 7  Sebag, Marie  m  FRA  2529  15  1986
 8  Zhao, Xue  m  CHN  2522  35  1985
 9  Kosintseva, Tatiana  m  RUS  2511  9  1986
 10  Kosteniuk, Alexandra  g  RUS  2510  2  1984
 11  Cmilyte, Viktorija  m  LTU  2508  27  1983
 12  Lahno, Kateryna  g  UKR  2507  20  1989
 13  Muzychuk, Anna  m  SLO  2504  30  1990
 14  Ruan, Lufei  wg  CHN  2499  6  1987
 15  Zhu, Chen  g  QAT  2496  14  1976
 16  Danielian, Elina  m  ARM  2495  22  1978
 17  Zhukova, Natalia  wg  UKR  2489  20  1979
 18  Chiburdanidze, Maia  g  GEO  2489  0  1961
 19  Hoang Thanh Trang  g  HUN  2487  31  1980
 20  Xu, Yuhua  g  CHN  2483  17  1976
 21  Paehtz, Elisabeth  m  GER  2481  43  1985
 22  Ushenina, Anna  m  UKR  2476  28  1985
 23  Socko, Monika  m  POL  2473  38  1978
 24  Krush, Irina  m  USA  2470  31  1983
 25  Pogonina, Natalija  wg  RUS  2469  20  1985
 26  Gaponenko, Inna  m  UKR  2468  37  1976
 27  Skripchenko, Almira  m  FRA  2463  28  1976
 28  Peng, Zhaoqin  g  NED  2462  30  1968
 29  Hunt, Harriet V  m  ENG  2462  12  1978
 30  Qin, Kanying  wg  CHN  2462  5  1974
 31  Javakhishvili, Lela  m  GEO  2461  34  1984
 32  Harika, Dronavalli  m  IND  2461  22  1991
 33  Kosintseva, Nadezhda  m  RUS  2460  7  1985
 34  Galliamova, Alisa  m  RUS  2460  0  1972
 35  Korbut, Ekaterina  m  RUS  2459  9  1985
 36  Dzagnidze, Nana  m  GEO  2458  29  1987
 37  Arakhamia-Grant, Ketevan  m  SCO  2448  7  1968
 38  Zatonskih, Anna  m  USA  2446  31  1978
 39  Shen, Yang  wg  CHN  2445  18  1989
 40  Mkrtchian, Lilit  m  ARM  2436  17  1982
 41  Kovalevskaya, Ekaterina  m  RUS  2435  35  1974
 42  Tania, Sachdev  m  IND  2432  18  1986
 43  Dembo, Yelena  m  GRE  2431  20  1983
 44  Huang, Qian  wg  CHN  2430  8  1986
 45  Shadrina, Tatiana  wg  RUS  2429  9  1974
 46  Atalik, Ekaterina  m  TUR  2426  28  1982
 47  Li, Ruofan  wg  SIN  2425  25  1978
 48  Bojkovic, Natasa  m  SRB  2423  11  1971
 49  Zdebskaja, Natalia  wg  UKR  2422  33  1986
 50  Rajlich, Iweta  m  POL  2417  20  1981
 51  Tairova, Elena  m  RUS  2417  18  1991
 52  Melia, Salome  m  GEO  2416  20  1987
 53  Ovod, Evgenija  m  RUS  2416  19  1982
 54  Hagarova, Zuzana  m  SVK  2415  22  1977
 55  Lomineishvili, Maia  m  GEO  2414  11  1977
 56  Muzychuk, Mariya  wg  UKR  2413  31  1992
 57  Khurtsidze, Nino  m  GEO  2413  0  1975
 58  Matveeva, Svetlana  m  RUS  2412  29  1969
 59  Maric, Alisa  m  SRB  2412  0  1970
 60  Matnadze, Ana  m  GEO  2411  17  1983
 61  Peptan, Corina-Isabela  m  ROU  2409  19  1978
 62  Khukhashvili, Sopiko  m  GEO  2408  20  1985
 63  Wang, Pin  wg  CHN  2407  5  1974
 64  Mongontuul, Bathuyag  wg  MGL  2406  30  1987
 65  Houska, Jovanka  m  ENG  2405  11  1980
 66  Michna, Marta  wg  GER  2404  11  1978
 67  Repkova, Eva  m  SVK  2403  28  1975
 68  Vajda, Szidonia  m  HUN  2397  41  1979
 69  Bodnaruk, Anastasia  wf  RUS  2394  45  1992
 70  Zawadzka, Jolanta  wg  POL  2389  17  1987
 71  Ju, Wenjun    CHN  2389  15  1991
 72  Madl, Ildiko  m  HUN  2387  32  1969
 73  Tan, Zhongyi    CHN  2387  18  1991
 74  Moser, Eva  m  AUT  2383  44  1982
 75  Stepovaia, Tatiana  wg  RUS  2383  29  1965
 76  Alexandrova, Olga  m  UKR  2383  9  1978
 77  Zhang, Xiaowen  wm  CHN  2382  26  1989
 78  Turova, Irina  m  RUS  2381  29  1979
 79  Gunina, Valentina  wf  RUS  2381  24  1989
 80  Wang, Yu A.  m  CHN  2381  19  1982
 81  Fierro Baquero, Martha L.  m  ECU  2379  25  1977
 82  Kononenko, Tatiana  m  UKR  2377  0  1978
 83  Gaprindashvili, Nona  g  GEO  2376  0  1941
 84  Cosma, Elena Luminita  wg  ROU  2375  17  1972
 85  Kachiani-Gersinska, Ketino  m  GER  2374  29  1971
 86  Romanko, Marina  wg  RUS  2374  20  1986
 87  Nemcova, Katerina  wm  CZE  2372  23  1990
 88  Collas, Silvia  m  FRA  2370  22  1974
 89  Zimina, Olga  wg  ITA  2368  25  1982
 90  Chistiakova, Tamara  wf  RUS  2366  0  1986
 91  Vasilevich, Tatjana  m  UKR  2365  25  1977
 92  Ciuksyte, Dagne  m  ENG  2363  20  1977
 93  Vasilkova, Svetlana  wm  RUS  2361  28  1988
 94  Lujan, Carolina  m  ARG  2361  25  1985
 95  Stojanovic, Andjelija  wg  SRB  2359  34  1987
 96  Kovanova, Baira  wg  RUS  2359  20  1987
 97  Goletiani, Rusudan  wg  USA  2359  9  1980
 98  Jackova, Jana  m  CZE  2358  35  1982
 99  Lanchava, Tea  m  NED  2358  12  1974
 100  Milliet, Sophie  wg  FRA  2357  33  1983
 101  Pokorna, Regina  wg  SVK  2357  27  1982



FIDE JULY 2008 RATING LIST: TOP 20 JUNIORS

Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
 1  Carlsen, Magnus  g  NOR  2775  16  1990
 2  Karjakin, Sergey  g  UKR  2727  27  1990
 3  Wang, Hao  g  CHN  2691  28  1989
 4  Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime  g  FRA  2681  35  1990
 5  Caruana, Fabiano  g  ITA  2630  27  1992
 6  Mamedov, Rauf  g  AZE  2627  20  1988
 7  Rodshtein, Maxim  g  ISR  2605  29  1989
 8  Andreikin, Dmitry  g  RUS  2604  33  1990
 9  Zhou, Jianchao  g  CHN  2604  19  1988
 10  Nepomniachtchi, Ian  g  RUS  2602  18  1990
 11  Laznicka, Viktor  g  CZE  2601  42  1988
 12  Baramidze, David  g  GER  2593  43  1988
 13  Li, Chao b  g  CHN  2590  40  1989
 14  Lenic, Luka  g  SLO  2584  37  1988
 15  Zhigalko, Sergei  g  BLR  2583  11  1989
 16  Nguyen, Ngoc Truong Son  g  VIE  2579  0  1990
 17  Kuzubov, Yuriy  g  UKR  2578  29  1990
 18  So, Wesley  g  PHI  2577  34  1993
 19  Le, Quang Liem  g  VIE  2577  11  1991
 20  Khairullin, Ildar  g  RUS  2575  15  1990



FIDE JULY 2008 RATING LIST: TOP 20 GIRLS

Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
 1  Hou, Yifan  wg  CHN  2557  35  1994
 2  Lahno, Kateryna  g  UKR  2507  20  1989
 3  Muzychuk, Anna  m  SLO  2504  30  1990
 4  Harika, Dronavalli  m  IND  2461  22  1991
 5  Shen, Yang  wg  CHN  2445  18  1989
 6  Tairova, Elena  m  RUS  2417  18  1991
 7  Muzychuk, Mariya  wg  UKR  2413  31  1992
 8  Bodnaruk, Anastasia  wf  RUS  2394  45  1992
 9  Ju, Wenjun    CHN  2389  15  1991
 10  Tan, Zhongyi    CHN  2387  18  1991
 11  Zhang, Xiaowen  wm  CHN  2382  26  1989
 12  Gunina, Valentina  wf  RUS  2381  24  1989
 13  Nemcova, Katerina  wm  CZE  2372  23  1990
 14  Vasilkova, Svetlana  wm  RUS  2361  28  1988
 15  Khotenashvili, Bela  wg  GEO  2352  17  1988
 16  Girya, Olga  wf  RUS  2350  38  1991
 17  Nebolsina, Vera  wg  RUS  2350  28  1989
 18  Stock, Lara  wm  CRO  2346  0  1992
 19  Dolzhikova, Kateryna  wm  UKR  2339  28  1988
 20  Foisor, Sabina-Francesca  wg  ROU  2337  27  1989




Written by peter | Filed under Coverstory 

Comments

10 Responses to “New FIDE ratings: Carlsen not second”

  1. Jochem on 30 June 2008 21:08 PM

    voor de nederlandse top 100 heb je de april lijst gebruikt ipv die van juli

  2. MvE on 30 June 2008 21:55 PM

    Undoubtetly much has been debated about this subject and FIDE’s refusal to process the newest tournaments, atypical for this era of fast data-processing. Like this, FIDE risks to lose the monopoly of rating reference. Initiatives like “Live ratings” have the potency to overhaul FIDE as such. But it will be confusing, because for seeding players in tournaments, FIDE will stick to its own official rating lists. Chess players will think and talk with in two ratings: FIDE and ‘real’, or ‘live’.

  3. peter on 30 June 2008 21:56 PM

    aha dan ben ik weer in hetzelfde getrapt als drie maanden geleden, toen bleek de ‘country top 100′ ook nog niet bijgewerkt te zijn. excuus!

  4. Mikhail Golubev on 30 June 2008 22:40 PM

    Morozevich never was No 2 before, it makes things worse. There was/is no good solution. Thanks, FIDE, once again.

  5. Rubinstein on 30 June 2008 23:42 PM

    Whats the problem, Why should Fide Bend the Rule just because some player overtakes antother player on the ratinglist. Foros did not end in time for juli Fide-list. End of story.

  6. Aeropostale on 1 July 2008 1:43 AM

    There is one and only rating list: the FIDE rating list.

  7. rach3 on 1 July 2008 3:26 AM

    - Rubenstein - because FIDE has made plenty of exceptions in the past and included tournaments past the deadline. Anand and 1 Billion Indian’s come to anyone’s mind?

  8. Ardjan on 1 July 2008 11:11 AM

    It’s easy (politics): two Russians take places 2-3 now; would they (=FIDE=Russians) like it if a young Norwegian surpasses ALL Russians on the FIDE list? Of course not!

  9. Steve Giddins on 1 July 2008 16:03 PM

    I think it is a scandal that the new list does not take account of the results of the 2021 Corus tournament. Just because the event has not taken place yet is no grounds for FIDE excluding it from the rating list. In these days of instant internet communication, anyone can just go to nostrodamus.com and find out the results at the click of a mouse. The published list is meaningless, as everybody knows that if FIDE had done what I suggest, the new world no. 1 would be the minus-4 year old Chinese foetus, Eye Beat All, rated 3536.

  10. The_Anonymous_Person on 2 July 2008 7:32 AM

    And in the Linares 2036 tournament, the -22 year old Arctic foetus Eye-Draw Aghen finishes with a performance rating of 2736. 284 points higher rated is Rex Ign Nao, winner of the Grand Slam 2035 (ahead of Grandmasters Neverhurdovich, Heresthepointovic and Imforsalevic).

    I think you would agree that this is a very important omission by FIDE.

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