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		<title>By: Robert Ris</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/barcza-memorial-cancelled-after-first-round-organizer-never-paid-anything/comment-page-1/#comment-95618</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Ris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Arne

I don&#039;t know what&#039;s wrong with me, but last Friday I decided to give the Budapester a try in a blitz game! ;-) I found myself in a terrible position, but lucky me, I could escape once again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Arne</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s wrong with me, but last Friday I decided to give the Budapester a try in a blitz game! <img src='http://www.chessvibes.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I found myself in a terrible position, but lucky me, I could escape once again!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Ris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Christos

In my situation, in my opinion, aying 600 euro&#039;s is not so strange. You must imagine I was invited to play in a cat. 13 tournament. The organizer had arranged special discount tarifs in the hotel, so that means in case I had booked a normal holiday in that hotel all myself, it would have been much more expensive. 
Secondly, these days there are more tournaments like this where you have to take care about all your own expenses. For example in Aeroflot tournament in Moscow, usually all players in the A1 (2550+) section, don&#039;t get any conditions, nothing to say about players in A2 (2400-2550). So in my opinion it&#039;s not that strange to do it once, giving myself the oppurtunity to play against such strong field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Christos</p>
<p>In my situation, in my opinion, aying 600 euro&#8217;s is not so strange. You must imagine I was invited to play in a cat. 13 tournament. The organizer had arranged special discount tarifs in the hotel, so that means in case I had booked a normal holiday in that hotel all myself, it would have been much more expensive.<br />
Secondly, these days there are more tournaments like this where you have to take care about all your own expenses. For example in Aeroflot tournament in Moscow, usually all players in the A1 (2550+) section, don&#8217;t get any conditions, nothing to say about players in A2 (2400-2550). So in my opinion it&#8217;s not that strange to do it once, giving myself the oppurtunity to play against such strong field.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It¬¥s probably already too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It¬¥s probably already too late.</p>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% RIGHT!!!
 That&#039;s why most of the &#039;normal GM&#039;s&#039; left chess searching for dignity and showing self respect...
 
 There are so many chess professional gipsies that so often humiliate themself without any self respect,and doing almost nothing for a better future...as to warn others about such great organisers...Nothing to do in April-so let&#039;s make a diet and run after a cheater organisers to pay us! A great sport! And if he can&#039;t pay us the conditions-what&#039;s the problem? We can maybe have a free night sleep in a friendly house and save few euros so we can comeback next year! Bravoo Postny,a real inspiration for any chess lover!
 Bobby and Kasparov had to open there chess School to teach GM&#039;s how to get more respect and better payment for there job ,but considering this two complex selfish personalities...This is the mirror of the chess world!
 Any other respective sport  or job without contracts or at least advance payment for expences??!

  Wake up sleepy lazy GM&#039;s and fight for rights before is too late....or maybe it is already?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% RIGHT!!!<br />
 That&#8217;s why most of the &#8216;normal GM&#8217;s&#8217; left chess searching for dignity and showing self respect&#8230;</p>
<p> There are so many chess professional gipsies that so often humiliate themself without any self respect,and doing almost nothing for a better future&#8230;as to warn others about such great organisers&#8230;Nothing to do in April-so let&#8217;s make a diet and run after a cheater organisers to pay us! A great sport! And if he can&#8217;t pay us the conditions-what&#8217;s the problem? We can maybe have a free night sleep in a friendly house and save few euros so we can comeback next year! Bravoo Postny,a real inspiration for any chess lover!<br />
 Bobby and Kasparov had to open there chess School to teach GM&#8217;s how to get more respect and better payment for there job ,but considering this two complex selfish personalities&#8230;This is the mirror of the chess world!<br />
 Any other respective sport  or job without contracts or at least advance payment for expences??!</p>
<p>  Wake up sleepy lazy GM&#8217;s and fight for rights before is too late&#8230;.or maybe it is already?!</p>
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		<title>By: Israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I still decided to give him a chance, as I didn‚Äôt find any other event to play in April...&quot;
Bad excuse. Postny already had a bad experience with that guy, but gave Pali one more chance! Why didn&#039;t he ask Pali to pay him some money in advance or to pay at least a flight? Why didn&#039;t he sign any kind of contract from Pali?
This is not the first story ( I&#039;ve heard of at least a dozen happened in last few years) and not the last, but Grandmasters simply don&#039;t do anything to prevent those situations! Hire a good manager and pay him some % of your winnings. In fact, a grandmaster with 2650 can hardly make a living from chess, so they don&#039;t even think in that direction. Look at ACP- do they make anything else, except running pointless polls and conflicting with FIDE?
Stop whining, guys! Go and get a normal job. Take an example from McShane, Piket, Sadler etc. Or more guys like Pali will be on your way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still decided to give him a chance, as I didn‚Äôt find any other event to play in April&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Bad excuse. Postny already had a bad experience with that guy, but gave Pali one more chance! Why didn&#8217;t he ask Pali to pay him some money in advance or to pay at least a flight? Why didn&#8217;t he sign any kind of contract from Pali?<br />
This is not the first story ( I&#8217;ve heard of at least a dozen happened in last few years) and not the last, but Grandmasters simply don&#8217;t do anything to prevent those situations! Hire a good manager and pay him some % of your winnings. In fact, a grandmaster with 2650 can hardly make a living from chess, so they don&#8217;t even think in that direction. Look at ACP- do they make anything else, except running pointless polls and conflicting with FIDE?<br />
Stop whining, guys! Go and get a normal job. Take an example from McShane, Piket, Sadler etc. Or more guys like Pali will be on your way.</p>
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		<title>By: Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Castro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lajos Arpad

&quot;He should at least be put in jail, but that‚Äôs not an appropriate punishment for him to have a place to sleep, to have food for every day all from the expenses of the people from Hungary&quot;

Things one can say! This type of comments makes me largely prefer Ruben&#039;s &quot;Lynch him!&quot;, which, if it isn&#039;t, at least may look like pure, funny, fully assumed nonsense!

@Henk
You love drama, right? But you even sound like wishing it to happen. Have you thought about how small this is, compared with the big disgraces of the humanity, with all the touching, brilliant stories they inspired? And look: There are always survivals! Let&#039;s have more disgraces, in the name of drama and of the rest of the arts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lajos Arpad</p>
<p>&#8220;He should at least be put in jail, but that‚Äôs not an appropriate punishment for him to have a place to sleep, to have food for every day all from the expenses of the people from Hungary&#8221;</p>
<p>Things one can say! This type of comments makes me largely prefer Ruben&#8217;s &#8220;Lynch him!&#8221;, which, if it isn&#8217;t, at least may look like pure, funny, fully assumed nonsense!</p>
<p>@Henk<br />
You love drama, right? But you even sound like wishing it to happen. Have you thought about how small this is, compared with the big disgraces of the humanity, with all the touching, brilliant stories they inspired? And look: There are always survivals! Let&#8217;s have more disgraces, in the name of drama and of the rest of the arts!</p>
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		<title>By: Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Castro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben
Because the way to the jail is outside of it  ;-)
Anyway, sometimes these cases look more than simple law-breaking issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben<br />
Because the way to the jail is outside of it  <img src='http://www.chessvibes.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Anyway, sometimes these cases look more than simple law-breaking issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Barcza Memorial cancelled after first round; organizer never paid anything &#124; linkfeedr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barcza Memorial cancelled after first round; organizer never paid anything &#124; linkfeedr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cancelled after first round; organizer never paid anything  This article was found on ChessVibes. Click here to visit the full article on the original website.This week the very strong 2nd edition of the Gedeon Barcza Memorial, with GMs Zoltan Almasi (2685), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cancelled after first round; organizer never paid anything  This article was found on ChessVibes. Click here to visit the full article on the original website.This week the very strong 2nd edition of the Gedeon Barcza Memorial, with GMs Zoltan Almasi (2685), [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is this guy not in jail?</description>
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		<title>By: Henk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of story for the history trove of chess. I love these kind of stories about gangsters organizing chess tournaments, fraudulent investors using stolen money to organize matches, chess players losing their appearance fee before the start of the tournament in the casino and simply people without money organizing stuff, Great story! Except for those involved that is, but they¬¥ll survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of story for the history trove of chess. I love these kind of stories about gangsters organizing chess tournaments, fraudulent investors using stolen money to organize matches, chess players losing their appearance fee before the start of the tournament in the casino and simply people without money organizing stuff, Great story! Except for those involved that is, but they¬¥ll survive.</p>
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