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	<title>Comments on: Carlsen withdraws from FIDE Grand Prix</title>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89203</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the first sentence - not everything is FIDE&#039;s fault - and I agree with the first half of the first paragraph.

The rest I disagree. There will be even less sponsors if FIDE changes the rules in the middle of the competition. Not to mention that it is unfair to all the GP partticipants, and also probably illegal (or at least it should be). Besides how exactly does this &quot;new&quot; cycle take care of the problems with Grand Prix??? It will still be played, only that it will be even harder to get sponsors since the Grand Prix has been demoted for one stage.

When the 2008-2010/11 cycle was announced I really liked it. It is a mixture of all systems we had before - tournaments (Grand Prix), knock-out (World Cup) and matches (challenger match and WCC match) - so I think everybody should be satisfied with it (there just isn&#039;t any perfect system). The one who comes on top can trully be considered as a World Champion since he proved his superiority regardless of the competition system.

So I think the system is OK, what chess world needs is stability! A system that will be used for years. It&#039;s those constant changes that are killing the World Championship, not the competition sytem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the first sentence &#8211; not everything is FIDE&#8217;s fault &#8211; and I agree with the first half of the first paragraph.</p>
<p>The rest I disagree. There will be even less sponsors if FIDE changes the rules in the middle of the competition. Not to mention that it is unfair to all the GP partticipants, and also probably illegal (or at least it should be). Besides how exactly does this &#8220;new&#8221; cycle take care of the problems with Grand Prix??? It will still be played, only that it will be even harder to get sponsors since the Grand Prix has been demoted for one stage.</p>
<p>When the 2008-2010/11 cycle was announced I really liked it. It is a mixture of all systems we had before &#8211; tournaments (Grand Prix), knock-out (World Cup) and matches (challenger match and WCC match) &#8211; so I think everybody should be satisfied with it (there just isn&#8217;t any perfect system). The one who comes on top can trully be considered as a World Champion since he proved his superiority regardless of the competition system.</p>
<p>So I think the system is OK, what chess world needs is stability! A system that will be used for years. It&#8217;s those constant changes that are killing the World Championship, not the competition sytem.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89199</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People seem to be happy to quickly blame FIDE for everything...

It&#039;s as if the top players think they&#039;re doing the world a &quot;favor&quot; by playing these top-level chess events. Should we forget the hundreds of thousands of euros they are loading into their bank account over the course of the year? No, they are not doing a favor to the world by playing, ultimately they are the ones who are benefitting. They can pull out of an event if they&#039;d like, it&#039;s one less whiner! Ideally it would be nice if the GP could stay as it was, but if sponsors pull out and there is no money, what do the players expect FIDE to do? Make money out of air?

FIDE and other organizations have a tough time raising funds for a &quot;sport&quot; like chess because it simply is not an easy task... chess is not football.

The players should step down from the skies and realize that they are making money by playing this game, and they should not be so picky if an organization like FIDE has to change rules to make sure the event can survive when sponsors pull out.

The GP was compromised when the Doha and Montreaux legs got pulled out so FIDE _HAD TO_ make changes to the qualification process to account for the damage that the changes to the GP process would have caused...

If the players are worried about qualifying under the new 8-player system, maybe they should get better at playing. If they really think they are worthy of qualifying, then they should theoretically win in the 8-player system, otherwise if they can&#039;t win when facing 7 other competitors, what makes them worthy of being a challenger to the world champion? Otherwise, if they fear losing in an 8-player game, they are merely a pretender to the throne, then that is why they would be concerned by the changes to the qualification.

[I apologize if this seems very harsh on the players, but chess is a game and the players should not forget the difficulty in raising money for a game as difficult to market as this one is.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem to be happy to quickly blame FIDE for everything&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if the top players think they&#8217;re doing the world a &#8220;favor&#8221; by playing these top-level chess events. Should we forget the hundreds of thousands of euros they are loading into their bank account over the course of the year? No, they are not doing a favor to the world by playing, ultimately they are the ones who are benefitting. They can pull out of an event if they&#8217;d like, it&#8217;s one less whiner! Ideally it would be nice if the GP could stay as it was, but if sponsors pull out and there is no money, what do the players expect FIDE to do? Make money out of air?</p>
<p>FIDE and other organizations have a tough time raising funds for a &#8220;sport&#8221; like chess because it simply is not an easy task&#8230; chess is not football.</p>
<p>The players should step down from the skies and realize that they are making money by playing this game, and they should not be so picky if an organization like FIDE has to change rules to make sure the event can survive when sponsors pull out.</p>
<p>The GP was compromised when the Doha and Montreaux legs got pulled out so FIDE _HAD TO_ make changes to the qualification process to account for the damage that the changes to the GP process would have caused&#8230;</p>
<p>If the players are worried about qualifying under the new 8-player system, maybe they should get better at playing. If they really think they are worthy of qualifying, then they should theoretically win in the 8-player system, otherwise if they can&#8217;t win when facing 7 other competitors, what makes them worthy of being a challenger to the world champion? Otherwise, if they fear losing in an 8-player game, they are merely a pretender to the throne, then that is why they would be concerned by the changes to the qualification.</p>
<p>[I apologize if this seems very harsh on the players, but chess is a game and the players should not forget the difficulty in raising money for a game as difficult to market as this one is.]</p>
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		<title>By: Eiae</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89196</link>
		<dc:creator>Eiae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bury FIDE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bury FIDE</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89191</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Wijk ann Zee, Linares, Sofia, Dortmund are &quot;private&quot; invitational tournaments. Organizers can invite/not invite players according to their wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Wijk ann Zee, Linares, Sofia, Dortmund are &#8220;private&#8221; invitational tournaments. Organizers can invite/not invite players according to their wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Doggers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Doggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think in principle everyone should theoretically be able to qualify for such a Grand Slam tournament then. In Wijk aan Zee that&#039;s possible, but elsewhere not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think in principle everyone should theoretically be able to qualify for such a Grand Slam tournament then. In Wijk aan Zee that&#8217;s possible, but elsewhere not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use the grand slam series as a selection for a candidates tournament? It works, because those tournaments (Wijk, Linares, Sofia, ...) are sure of a good organisation and of their existence. 

Add to the winners of this the winner of the world cup and some high rated players (the hghest possible off course) and you have a system that can work because those tournaments have a sound organisational platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use the grand slam series as a selection for a candidates tournament? It works, because those tournaments (Wijk, Linares, Sofia, &#8230;) are sure of a good organisation and of their existence. </p>
<p>Add to the winners of this the winner of the world cup and some high rated players (the hghest possible off course) and you have a system that can work because those tournaments have a sound organisational platform.</p>
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		<title>By: val</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89182</link>
		<dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not return to a proven good old system: 1) Zonal tournaments  2) Interzonals 3) Matches? It was fair, transparent and satisfactory to all. This system was particularly undermined by an overambitious rebel champion, who later on called his rebellion a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not return to a proven good old system: 1) Zonal tournaments  2) Interzonals 3) Matches? It was fair, transparent and satisfactory to all. This system was particularly undermined by an overambitious rebel champion, who later on called his rebellion a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: SugarDom</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89174</link>
		<dc:creator>SugarDom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlsen is going the way of Fischer, by not playing chess. I hate it when people called him the greatest and refuse matches unless the rules favor him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlsen is going the way of Fischer, by not playing chess. I hate it when people called him the greatest and refuse matches unless the rules favor him.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert de Bruut</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/carlsen-withdraws-from-fide-grand-prix/comment-page-1/#comment-89172</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert de Bruut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FIDE rule = blatant incompetence and abuse through a mockery of democracy. Abiding by FIDE&#039;s leadership of the chess world is collaboration. For national federations of civilized countries secession is the only just and  honorable option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIDE rule = blatant incompetence and abuse through a mockery of democracy. Abiding by FIDE&#8217;s leadership of the chess world is collaboration. For national federations of civilized countries secession is the only just and  honorable option.</p>
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		<title>By: ChessGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChessGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can just say: HURRAY! It?Ç¬¥s time for FIDE to start paying for all the nonsense and disrespect towards players and public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can just say: HURRAY! It?Ç¬¥s time for FIDE to start paying for all the nonsense and disrespect towards players and public.</p>
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