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	<title>Comments on: [lang_nl]Topalov-Kramnik 1-0, geen handshake[/lang_nl][lang_en]Topalov-Kramnik 1-0, no handshake[/lang_en]</title>
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		<title>By: Johnkata</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49632</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnkata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Topalov didn&#039;t want to shake hands with Kramnik, because he noted the Russian did not wash his hands in the toilet before the match...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topalov didn&#8217;t want to shake hands with Kramnik, because he noted the Russian did not wash his hands in the toilet before the match&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lajos Arpad</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49547</link>
		<dc:creator>Lajos Arpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kramnik didn&#039;t have a chance against a so strong preparation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kramnik didn&#8217;t have a chance against a so strong preparation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49520</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Werkelijk te gek voor woorden dat Topalov vandaag de expertprijs kreeg van Sokolov voor zijn huiswerk tegen Kramnik, ook nog gemaakt door Cheparinov. Had niets met schaken te maken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Werkelijk te gek voor woorden dat Topalov vandaag de expertprijs kreeg van Sokolov voor zijn huiswerk tegen Kramnik, ook nog gemaakt door Cheparinov. Had niets met schaken te maken.</p>
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		<title>By: gogomil</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49484</link>
		<dc:creator>gogomil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to agree on this :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have to agree on this :]</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49482</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gogomil:
who drawn these &quot;public prize lists&quot;? Why they offer to vote only for certain games, not giving opportunity to choose from all games played? That&#039;s how (fake...) publicity is being created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gogomil:<br />
who drawn these &#8220;public prize lists&#8221;? Why they offer to vote only for certain games, not giving opportunity to choose from all games played? That&#8217;s how (fake&#8230;) publicity is being created.</p>
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		<title>By: gogomil</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49480</link>
		<dc:creator>gogomil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the kind of chess both play- Topalov is 6 times in  the public prize winner offers  in 9 rounds, Kramnik is in 3 !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the kind of chess both play- Topalov is 6 times in  the public prize winner offers  in 9 rounds, Kramnik is in 3 !!!</p>
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		<title>By: gogomil</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49478</link>
		<dc:creator>gogomil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kostadinov - are you toshko ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kostadinov &#8211; are you toshko ?</p>
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		<title>By: gogomil</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49477</link>
		<dc:creator>gogomil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very well said Francis ,thank you !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very well said Francis ,thank you !!</p>
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		<title>By: Frits Fritschy</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49468</link>
		<dc:creator>Frits Fritschy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mayadi
The exact play in Bosboom-Maenhout was: 9 h4 g4 10 Ne5 h5 11 Le2 Lb7 12 0-0 Pbd7 13 Nxf7, which makes quite a difference. A brilliant idea by Bosboom, but compared to Topalov-Kramnik the Bishop is still at f8 and the f-file can be opened more easily. (By the way, my earlier posting wasn&#039;t a reaction on yours; I hadn&#039;t read it yet.)
@the rest
Bad relations between top players are as old as chess itself. In the 16th century Paolo Boi is rumoured to be poisoned; Staunton and Steinitz made mincemeat of their colleagues in their newspaper columns; Aljechin didn&#039;t speak for years with Bogoljubow (and might have kept him out of tournaments); Botwinnik said something like that he had to hate his adversary; Kortsnoi and Petrosjan kicked each other under the table, and anyone can find more examples. Chess can be an intense game, and that effects relations. This tension can lead to beautiful games, as it did yesterday. I cannot help feeling that Topalov refrained from 27 h3 because it was just not enough in an emotional sense.
FIDE should do something to the effect that games can be played in a normal way. No physical harm, no distraction of the opponent. But you can&#039;t force people to like each other. Forcing them to shake hands is forcing them to make an empty gesture. (And if people are without solid proof saying I have committed a crime and a friend says that I was in a position to do it, after first stating nothing happened, I would think twice to shake his hand again.)
And, thinking of Short, the same applies to what chessplayers write about each other (or about FIDE officials): FIDE should keep out of it.
There is no need for rules about just anything people don&#039;t like or can&#039;t handle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mayadi<br />
The exact play in Bosboom-Maenhout was: 9 h4 g4 10 Ne5 h5 11 Le2 Lb7 12 0-0 Pbd7 13 Nxf7, which makes quite a difference. A brilliant idea by Bosboom, but compared to Topalov-Kramnik the Bishop is still at f8 and the f-file can be opened more easily. (By the way, my earlier posting wasn&#8217;t a reaction on yours; I hadn&#8217;t read it yet.)<br />
@the rest<br />
Bad relations between top players are as old as chess itself. In the 16th century Paolo Boi is rumoured to be poisoned; Staunton and Steinitz made mincemeat of their colleagues in their newspaper columns; Aljechin didn&#8217;t speak for years with Bogoljubow (and might have kept him out of tournaments); Botwinnik said something like that he had to hate his adversary; Kortsnoi and Petrosjan kicked each other under the table, and anyone can find more examples. Chess can be an intense game, and that effects relations. This tension can lead to beautiful games, as it did yesterday. I cannot help feeling that Topalov refrained from 27 h3 because it was just not enough in an emotional sense.<br />
FIDE should do something to the effect that games can be played in a normal way. No physical harm, no distraction of the opponent. But you can&#8217;t force people to like each other. Forcing them to shake hands is forcing them to make an empty gesture. (And if people are without solid proof saying I have committed a crime and a friend says that I was in a position to do it, after first stating nothing happened, I would think twice to shake his hand again.)<br />
And, thinking of Short, the same applies to what chessplayers write about each other (or about FIDE officials): FIDE should keep out of it.<br />
There is no need for rules about just anything people don&#8217;t like or can&#8217;t handle.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/corus-2008-topalov-kramnik-no-handshake/comment-page-2/#comment-49459</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kostadinov:
more specific: 66.h6+,68.f4,72.f5,100.f6,107.h7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kostadinov:<br />
more specific: 66.h6+,68.f4,72.f5,100.f6,107.h7</p>
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