FIDE elections: facts contradict Ilyumzhinov; Kasparov's speech online
Yesterday, FIDE President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov responded with an open letter to the nomination of Anatoly Karpov by the Russian Chess Federation on Friday, at the Central Chess House in Moscow. As it turns out his letter contradicts the facts. Meanwhile Garry Kasparov's address to the RCF has been posted on YouTube. Developing story.
We already published Ilyumzhinov's open letter as an update to our previous article on the FIDE elections, but we'll repeat it here for the sake of clarity:
Moscow, Russian Federation / Saturday, May 15, 2010
Dear Presidents, Delegates and Federation members,
In certain media, it was reported that the Russian Chess Federation supposedly “took a decision” to nominate Anatoly Karpov as its representative for FIDE President. Unfortunately, a “decision” shrouded in clear deceit and typical of the misrepresentations which we have become accustomed to the last few weeks, from the troika of Karpov, Bakh and Kasparov.
A meeting was originally for 5.00 p.m. in Mr Dvorkovich’s office, and it was suddenly changed by Mr Bakh notifying some of the delegates that they should meet at 4.30 p.m. at the premises of the Russian Chess Federation. The Chairman of the Russian Chess Federation was not notified at all. A grave insult to the office of the Chairman and the Russian Chess Federation. This clearly violates the statutes which determine that all meetings are to be presided over by the Chairman.
A rough show of hands was called for and an immediate statement released on this basis. These tactics are reminiscent of the behavior which Karpov and his team, were so content to exploit, during Soviet times. From my side, I had preferred to leave the delegates in a neutral position, but such behavior not only infringes any sense of ethics, but makes this decision completely illegal and contestable, apart from any other actions that are reserved against persons who knowingly misled the delegates into taking such action.
Let me make it crystal clear, dear delegates, I will run for FIDE President once again and I am confident that the delegates will once again put their trust in our team.
I have the clear support of the majority of FIDE’s member Federations who have been waiting patiently in the background, for the Russian Chess Federation to proceed with its nomination. Today’s decision makes a mockery of Karpov and his team, who believe they are capable of running a future FIDE. His campaign so far has been based on misrepresentation and false accusations.
Our mission grows stronger to protect the unity, transparency and democracy that has been created within FIDE these last fifteen years.
Gens una sumus.
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov
FIDE President
As was confirmed to us by Russian chess journalist Denis Bilunov, Ilyumzhinov's version of the facts is incorrect. This was also indirectly pointed out in a press release by what seems to be the Karpov side of the Russian Chess Federation, published on the Russian chess site e3e5 (curiously, not on the site of the RCF itself, where only an older statement by Dvorkovich can be found see also the official announcement of the Supervisory Board on the RCF website):
On our site of the Russian Chess Federation was a press release that read: "May 14, 2010, at the Botvinnik Central House of Chess in Moscow, meeting of the Supervisory Board of RCF". Of the place and time of the meeting, as well as on the proposed agenda, Council members were informed in advance. Relevant information messages were also posted on the official website of the RCF.
But on the eve of the meeting, the Chairman of the Supervisory Board, A.V. Dvorkovich, suddenly decided to change the place of the meeting. He suggested a meeting in his office, namely Dvorkovich's place. Most members (17 of 32) rejected this proposal - given the special historical status of the Central House of Chess, as well as the large interest from the chess public and the media for the meeting. Chairman of the Board of the RCF, A.G. Bach, informed A.V. Dvorkovich about this decision by telephone and invited him and other members of the Supervisory Board to arrive at the Central House of Chess. On the previously scheduled time (17:00), the Council meeting started under the chairmanship of A. Selivanova. (...)
Heart of the matter is the fact that the meeting of the RCF was originally scheduled not at Mr. Dvorkovich's office, but at the Botvinnik Central Chess House on Gogol Boulevard in Moscow. The announcement with place and time was already posted on the site of the Russian Chess Federation on 5 May 2010 and again on 7 May 2010. Therefore, President Ilyumzhinov's interpretation is simply wrong on this point and casts serious doubt on the rest of his (legal) points as well.
Meanwhile, WGM Natalia Pogonina has linked to a video (made by Oleg Kozyrev) of Garry Kasparov's speech to the Supervisory Board, right before the start of the meeting last Friday.
Pogonina also provided a transcript in English, which we reproduce here as well:
I could answer some questions, but maybe I would rather address a common falsification of facts that is going on in the world. Even though we live in the age of the Internet and other modern technologies, some news spread slowly. There are a few myths in the chess world on which people try to base their ungrounded decisions. The situation itself is somewhat surreal: I and Karpov have clashed at this very building a couple of times, we have always been antagonists. A lot of issues have been sorted out, sometimes everything ended in an ideologic debate, sometimes in "bad peace". It has always been a confrontation.
As you might understand, today is a totally different case. I believe this day is very important for Russian chess. The sole fact that there is a dilemma, and it it seriously discussed - Karpov or Ilyumzhinov - seems strange to me. Not because it's a candidate master vs a world champion; but because nowadays in chess and the professional world in general reputation is the key factor. I don't think there is any challenge in determining who is more reputable.
It's a disgrace that they are trying to impose the 15-year old (as Ilyumzhinov's reign) mythology on the Russian Chess Federation. The other members of the Supervisory Board (who haven't joined us) are under the impression that the whole world supports Ilyumzhinov. It's a lie. I haven't been in the chess circles for a while, but I visit a lot of countries. I can estimate in what condition the world is. That statement is not true. In fact, the chess world is in a disastrous condition. The leading chess website - ChessBase - has posted a trivia. People had to guess where the 6th Grand Prix stage will take place. Baku, Jermuk, Sochi, Nalchik, Elista, where will the next one be? The answer was Astrakhan, to form a circle on the map. Just think about the names of the cities! (Then some polite remarks aimed at showing he means no offense towards the locations).
When we were playing with Karpov, where was it? Moscow, London, New York, Seville, Leon. And where are we today? It didn't happen just all of a sudden. Chess is not at the circumference because everywhere else it is not taken seriously. And it's not just a problem of world's chess, it's a problem for Russia. When all the world media is showing the FIDE president recalling his meeting with aliens. One can live in the world of hallucinations. But when the future of chess depends on such people... It's obvious that this situation won't change, and everyone understands it in (lists countries). You have been provided with a presentation by Anatoly Evgenievich Karpov with a list of the countries which support him. The chess countries (USA, Germany, England, Spain, Switzerland) are on the list. Also many others (mentions them). Even Ukraine. I.e. the countries which have traditionally been supporting Ilyumzhinov. Just think about it.
This support stands for something. Supporting someone at an early stage is a risky step. It's a serious risk to oppose the current President (who has been the head of FIDE for 15 years) at such an early stage of the elections. The situation has changed dramatically. 21 countries already, before the elections, are supporting Karpov. About half of them have been supporting Ilyumzhinov before. Ukraine - it's actually a very uncommon thing. Before they have been supporting Iyumzhnova vs Bessel Kok, now they have expressed their support for Karpov...
Per Anatoly Evgenievich request I have been communicating with many leaders of chess federations and grandmasters. Everyone is afraid of just one myth: that in Khanty-Mansiisk (where the elections will take place - Pogonina.com) everyone will be "buried". Today's meeting will be decisive in the confrontation. People somehow believe that Ilyumzhinov controls everything in Russia. Today we have a chance to show that it is not the truth. Kirsan has no support in the world, all the can rely upon is the so-called "administrative resource". Dvorkovich, Ilyumzhinov, Magomedov? And Karpov? How can one compare them?
This discussion is extremely important. It's not only about Russian chess, it's about the future of world chess. These things are interconnected. The agenda which we were supposed to discuss today has some unreal items. Let's talk about the real problems. We can't win 3 Chess Olympiads in a row. I have been brought up in the system of coordinates where 2nd place was a failure. Has something happened, now people approach it in a different way. For the first time since 1921 (Lasker-Capablanca) no Russian (or Soviet) representative is playing at the WC match. Look at our teeenagers. Karjakin (although he is not a teenager already), and came from Ukraine. Anyway, it's clear that he is not a future world champion due to...(pauses) format. We are on the decline everywhere. That's what we should be discussing.
Today we have a great chance to start affecting the process. Not by hiring legionaries from (names countries), but by working with Karpov's strong team. This can be discussed properly. And where is Ilyumzhinov? Why is Kirsan not here? Why is he not telling us about aliens, his connections, banks, Chess City, New Vasiuki? He has nothing to say because 15 years is a lot of time. It has been understood everywhere. The only reason why not everyone has supported Karpov already is that they are afraid and waiting for the decision here. We have to prove that it's not like that. It's a house of cards.
A great chess player on one side and a cardsharper on the other. You have the power to change this. If you have any questions on the situation in the world, feel free to ask. I know it pretty well, and have contacted a great number of people during the last two months. I am surprised. I also had the same instincts: everyone in Africa and the Carribean region is bribed; and then you start talking to people and see that people have understood everything. They are contacted once in 4 years, and then forgot about. They want changes, they want to see grandmasters, some programs.
Campomanes (although we had many controversies with him), at least tried to do something. Not much, but now nothing is being done at all. This situation can be changed, because the potential of chess is absolutely incredible. Modern technologies would allow create chess communities on the Internet, but nothing of that type has been done. Once again, we're faced with some sort of delirium: David Kaplan is going to teach us how to live. We have got more professional experience. And the reaction from the federations that have already supported Karpov show us that it is the right moment, people are ready for a change. Questions?
Update: many more videos of the meeting on Friday can be found on the New Times website.















Comments
Pais Pinto
1 year 8 months ago
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Go ahead Karpov and Kasparov.
I do bilieve that all chess world is supporting you both. Chess is going to improve in all maners. Africa is going to support you either.
James
Angola
Pais Pinto
1 year 8 months ago
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I´m free to say something that Kasparov didn´t point: "They want changes, they want to see grandmasters, some programs" ...It is missing the word: They need changes, they need to see grandmasters, some programs...
James
Angola
Mehul
1 year 8 months ago
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What Kasparov says is correct. Players on the ground in Africa want soemthing different. But I would be careful. The African officials may say one thing to Kasparov and do something very different at the ballot box. Plus in some african countries, such as mine, their is total discord between the offiicials and players. Officials will not discuss who they will vote for with the players!!
Radical Caveman
1 year 8 months ago
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Okay, now the facts are coming clear. As most of us suspected all along, Ilyumzhinov is lying through his teeth. This will quickly be evident to all the chess world, even while Ilyumzhinov's people keep up a steady barrage of propaganda.
From Africa and the Carribean, undoubtedly some nations will vote for Ilyumzhinov, assuming he is even able to find a way to run. But at least two African nations have already come out for Karpov. Ilyumzhinov's rotten boroughs will add up to a fair number of votes, but it may not be enough for him to win--especially now.
Frank van T
1 year 8 months ago
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Dear Arne / Peter, what is the stance of the Dutch Chess Federation?
Who do they support (personally I am hoping they would openly
be supporting Karpov)
Greg
1 year 8 months ago
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New interview by Dvorkovich who says that Alexander Bakh cannot work any more for the Russian Chess Federation: http://www.chesspro.ru/_events/2010/dvor.html
Rene
1 year 8 months ago
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@Leigh Do really believe things would be worse under Karpov than under Ilyumzhinov? You got to be kidding right?!
Septimus
1 year 8 months ago
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What's with this guy Ilyumzhinov? He seems like some sort of a nut (the alien invasion stuff)? Who in their right mind would vote for this clown? I don't think Karpov will necessarily improve anything...but...
Zee
1 year 8 months ago
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15 years should be enough for anybody. No worse spectacle than a Pol being dragged screaming from the spotlight. Usually, they'll appoint their successor and call that "change" if they're smart.
Dr.AHMED HAMDY MAREI
1 year 8 months ago
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Not adoring Karpov But DISLIKING corrupt Ilyumzhinov,
For me it's "crystal clear" ( the expression of Ilyumzhinov) that Dvorkovich is a "crytal clear" cheap manipulative liar, and llyumzhinov is "crystal clear" veteran corrupt.
I admit that I don't like "Karpov" very much but at least he was never accused of corruption and had never been a "crystal clear" liar.
Now it's "Crystal clear" that we have the clash between the " Crystal Clear Corrupt " group and the " Old enemies " group (Kasparov & Karpov).
noyb
1 year 8 months ago
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This seems pretty simple to me; choose either two of the greatest World Champions of all time, or someone who at best hasn't spread Chess outside of Russia (Elista), and at worst may be guilty of having someone killed to silence bad press.
'Nuff said!
Peter Doggers
1 year 8 months ago
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Simple for 'rich', Western federations perhaps. If a small, let's say Asian, African or South American federation can secure a multi-year budget by simply giving a vote, ethics will prove tough to uphold again.
Btw many more videos of the meeting on Friday can be found on the New Times website.
leigh
1 year 8 months ago
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Playing better chess doesn't mean playing better management
Philip
1 year 8 months ago
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I have it from eye witnesses that Kirsan Ilyumzhinov pays for votes in cash shorly before the election has been held. He is ready to pay thousends of dollars for each vote.
This is his main method, not to give money to federations, but bribe delegates personally.
Simmillion
1 year 8 months ago
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I'm with noyb and garry, how on earth can there be a dillema?
Simmillion
1 year 8 months ago
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@peter, I'm no ethics man either, and a multi year budget also could have great influence on me and my votinghabits. Having said that, voting for ET still seems ridiculous to me, and if the big chesscountries are really willing to helping the 'poor countries' there should be more 'chessfuture' in for example the Caribean with guys like Tolya then any Darth Vader can buy.
Gens una sumus
1 year 8 months ago
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These are one of the best chess players ever, living legends, world champions! What else someone need to confess that there is no another option?
S
1 year 8 months ago
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Oooh, not unanimous. Does that mean that the facts contradict Karpov's camp as well? If so, I am curious to see the next headline here.
leigh
1 year 8 months ago
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Karpov will win
Kasparov lost
Karpov + Kasparov totally lose
Karpov is a chess man. looks nice and reasonable.
Kasparov is a crazy man. He split chess world. He wants to be Russia president. He was in jail. He has few supporters.
Chess world will be messed up by Kasparov again.
KK
1 year 8 months ago
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Peter, you said "Simple for ‘rich’, Western federations perhaps", but what about rich european federations that are supporting Ilyumzhinov (I assume Europe is a tie between Karpov and I)? Is everyone afraid and toeing the line?
Gerard Snitselaar
1 year 8 months ago
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Nice video of the RCF vote on the karpov2010.org site. It doesn't look unanimous, but it looks like there were around 23 members of the council attending. The video definitely shows Kirsan's letter is a bunch of blustering lies. It looks like a normal, open meeting.
http://www.karpov2010.org/2010/05/karpovs-letter-on-receiving-russian-no...
e4e5f4
1 year 8 months ago
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Karpov will win the FIDE presidential election if Kasparov promise to return to professional chess. It is very strong weapon !
Septimus
1 year 8 months ago
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"I have it from eye witnesses that Kirsan Ilyumzhinov pays for votes in cash shorly before the election has been held. He is ready to pay thousends of dollars for each vote. "
Philip, where do I sign up? I have been subsisting of motherf**** Raman noodles for a whole week! I could use some of that cash bro...Ilyumzhinov throw some green my way pal...
Pierre
1 year 8 months ago
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Karpov just wants power, when he has it, he's no good. Facts prove it. Now, will Ilyumzhinov be better? I don't think so, both are bad candidates.
Just don't expect too much from Karpov once he's elected. For Kasparov, this is all good news if Karpov is elected, he will be able to give his opinion and have some weight on the balance.
Kasparov makes me laught in each of his statements about Russia, he speaks about corruption in "his country". Ok Russia, is in no good hands with Medvedev and Putin, but what does Kasparov propose to change this? He has no concrete plan! he just repeats himself "Russia is a police state... and all the blablabla that we all know" Did you ever hear Kasparov speaking about health care, or how he would invest the money?
He's just good to create a mess, just as he did on the chessboard. He's seaking for death so that he can be remembered as an icon of Russian movement for "democracy". Do you sincerly believe this guy would be any good for Russia? I really don't think so!
Zeblakob8.1.1
1 year 8 months ago
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Karpov and Kasparov represent chess, what does lyumzhinov represent?
vosuram
1 year 8 months ago
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According to Ilyumzhinov's tax declaration his income for 2009 is 785642 Russian rubles = $25,762.98 :-) How this guy paid $50M from his pocket, do you think? Think who is him. Well, I may give the answer: a "brother" from Russian 90s. That's first time when I'm entirely supporting Kasparov. It's a crucial situation, when he's really trying to fight mafia at power. In addition: after Olympics Russian officials declared that Russian sport federations must be ruled by the sport experts, not by bureaucrats. We'll see on which side they really are...
bummy
1 year 8 months ago
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Kirsan should just follow Cuba and Castro and outlaw elections. I don't know if he can follow the pay-for-vote schemes always seen in every democracy to conclusion this time. Democracy is as much the problem as the answer. We need competition among chess federations like 15 years ago. Just like we need competition against governments from subjugating the populaces. Campomanes extended the vote to ulterior groups just like it is always done in democracies, where votes are always for sale.
Taibur
1 year 8 months ago
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I lnow that bribing is the main arms of Illumzhynove. In the last election he promised 6000 usd to Bangladesh Delegate as a name of hiring a coach for the country. BCF hired Igor Rausis as Coach but didn't receive money from Illumzhinove at all. He is even corrupt in bribing. Kick this guy out from chess world.
h
1 year 8 months ago
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bring bessel kok back to the table!
h
1 year 8 months ago
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@zeblakob8.1.1
one can also say that the chess players, karpov and kasparov, represent chess in the wrong way.
h
1 year 8 months ago
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a quote from garri's poor sales pitch. (admit it, i read the transcript of his speech but i've never bought any of his books) the second paragraph of the sermon goes:
blah blah blah......“i believe this day is very important for russian chess".
guess we can assume kasparov taking the norwegan boy, carlson, to the karpov money raiser in new york instead of karjakin or radjabov, the kid from garri's home town azerbygone, was also important for russian chess. right?
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