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	<title>Comments on: Kamsky wins game 4 to level match score</title>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/kamsky-wins-game-4-to-level-match-score-2-2/comment-page-1/#comment-93910</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Simple Topalov fanboyism?&quot;


You assume much too much. I&#039;m not his fan. Never has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Simple Topalov fanboyism?&#8221;</p>
<p>You assume much too much. I&#8217;m not his fan. Never has been.</p>
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		<title>By: guitarspider</title>
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		<dc:creator>guitarspider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danailov was the driving force behind the Fide offer to Kramnik. You can search for the news items yourself, but I will quote Karpov here, with whom I totally agree.

http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2007/05/karpov-and-madmedyarov-speak-out.html

&quot;Here are the comments from Karpov about this matter:

Topalov¬¥s absence in the next World Championship cycle is scandalously absurd. But we have to remind ourselves of how these strange rules came up. They decided after San Luis by those same people of FIDE that went according to the decisions of Danailov and Topalov. They thought that after the magnificent results of Topalov in 2005, Kramnik simply would not have any chance to win. This was designed to get rid of him definitively. They invented these rules, according to which one of the participants of the match in Elista would not be allowed to play in the following cycle. There is a wonderful Russian proverb: &quot;Do not dig a hole for somebody else, you yourself will fall into it&quot;. This exact situation was what happened with Topalov and Danailov. They dug a hole to for Kramnik, but they were those who fell in it.&quot;

Danailov has tried to get an anti-Fide image after the match, like he and Topalov were cheated by Fide. The truth is Topalov was the Fide champion and Fide would&#039;ve done everything to have him win. Remember the toilet tapes they just handed out like nothing? Danailov and Topalov have a lot of friends within Fide, look at how easily they could circumvent their own clause.

You still didn&#039;t answer my question, how does agreeing with ‚ÄúNo player should get any favor‚Äù but disagreeing with ‚ÄúNo player should be seeded into the cycle whatever his rating‚Äù go together? Simple Topalov fanboyism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danailov was the driving force behind the Fide offer to Kramnik. You can search for the news items yourself, but I will quote Karpov here, with whom I totally agree.</p>
<p><a href="http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2007/05/karpov-and-madmedyarov-speak-out.html" rel="nofollow">http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2007/05/karpov-and-madmedyarov-speak-out.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Here are the comments from Karpov about this matter:</p>
<p>Topalov¬¥s absence in the next World Championship cycle is scandalously absurd. But we have to remind ourselves of how these strange rules came up. They decided after San Luis by those same people of FIDE that went according to the decisions of Danailov and Topalov. They thought that after the magnificent results of Topalov in 2005, Kramnik simply would not have any chance to win. This was designed to get rid of him definitively. They invented these rules, according to which one of the participants of the match in Elista would not be allowed to play in the following cycle. There is a wonderful Russian proverb: &#8220;Do not dig a hole for somebody else, you yourself will fall into it&#8221;. This exact situation was what happened with Topalov and Danailov. They dug a hole to for Kramnik, but they were those who fell in it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Danailov has tried to get an anti-Fide image after the match, like he and Topalov were cheated by Fide. The truth is Topalov was the Fide champion and Fide would&#8217;ve done everything to have him win. Remember the toilet tapes they just handed out like nothing? Danailov and Topalov have a lot of friends within Fide, look at how easily they could circumvent their own clause.</p>
<p>You still didn&#8217;t answer my question, how does agreeing with ‚ÄúNo player should get any favor‚Äù but disagreeing with ‚ÄúNo player should be seeded into the cycle whatever his rating‚Äù go together? Simple Topalov fanboyism?</p>
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		<title>By: ivaningbg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivaningbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,guys.I am Bulgarian and I am pretty sure,Topalov will be the next champion!Kamsky is good,but not the best one.Topalov now is the only one who has more then 2800 ELO,none else exept him!The victory will belong to Vesko Topalov!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,guys.I am Bulgarian and I am pretty sure,Topalov will be the next champion!Kamsky is good,but not the best one.Topalov now is the only one who has more then 2800 ELO,none else exept him!The victory will belong to Vesko Topalov!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/kamsky-wins-game-4-to-level-match-score-2-2/comment-page-1/#comment-93896</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you are mentioning the word ilogical. You said:

&quot;It was TOPALOV who wanted a clause in the match contract with Kramnik that excluded the loser from the next cycle.&quot;


Where did you get this from? It doesn&#039;t make any sense.


Let&#039;s see some facts:

1) Before the match, Topalov was directly seeded into the 2007 WCC, while Kramnik refused to participate in the candidates and was thus out of the cycle.

2) If Topalov would have won, his and Kramnik&#039;s status in the cycle would remain unchanged.

3) Kramnik won, so he switched places with Topalov - he got Topalov spot in 2007 WCC and Topalov was out of the cycle.



So why on earth would Topalov demand such a clause??? It makes no sence whatsoever. It is far more logical that it was Kramnik (or someone within FIDE who had something against Topalov) who came up with this clause.

Topalov was certainly not the one who came up with it, because he had nothing to gain from it. He could (and did) only lose something. Topalov and Danailov are not that stupid and arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you are mentioning the word ilogical. You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;It was TOPALOV who wanted a clause in the match contract with Kramnik that excluded the loser from the next cycle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did you get this from? It doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see some facts:</p>
<p>1) Before the match, Topalov was directly seeded into the 2007 WCC, while Kramnik refused to participate in the candidates and was thus out of the cycle.</p>
<p>2) If Topalov would have won, his and Kramnik&#8217;s status in the cycle would remain unchanged.</p>
<p>3) Kramnik won, so he switched places with Topalov &#8211; he got Topalov spot in 2007 WCC and Topalov was out of the cycle.</p>
<p>So why on earth would Topalov demand such a clause??? It makes no sence whatsoever. It is far more logical that it was Kramnik (or someone within FIDE who had something against Topalov) who came up with this clause.</p>
<p>Topalov was certainly not the one who came up with it, because he had nothing to gain from it. He could (and did) only lose something. Topalov and Danailov are not that stupid and arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: guitarspider</title>
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		<dc:creator>guitarspider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ pete: I did not say Kramnik deserved the match. But I think it was necessary to end all discussion. Kramnik shouldn&#039;t be at the Candidates Tournament (I&#039;m just assuming he will be), just like Topalov shouldn&#039;t be playing this match.

@ me: How is it possible to agree with &quot;No player should get any favor&quot; but disagree with &quot;No player should be seeded into the cycle whatever his rating&quot;? Doesn&#039;t seem logical to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ pete: I did not say Kramnik deserved the match. But I think it was necessary to end all discussion. Kramnik shouldn&#8217;t be at the Candidates Tournament (I&#8217;m just assuming he will be), just like Topalov shouldn&#8217;t be playing this match.</p>
<p>@ me: How is it possible to agree with &#8220;No player should get any favor&#8221; but disagree with &#8220;No player should be seeded into the cycle whatever his rating&#8221;? Doesn&#8217;t seem logical to me.</p>
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		<title>By: VB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Topalov will play white in game 5. If so I bet on 1-0 and the six game will be also very interesting and important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Topalov will play white in game 5. If so I bet on 1-0 and the six game will be also very interesting and important.</p>
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		<title>By: Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Castro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tchigorin and every other Great! It is a myth that Tchigorin really praised knights more than bishops, in general. He had many games in which he exchanges knights and keeps bishops. Now, he praised them, and played them very well, having memorable wins that way, sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tchigorin and every other Great! It is a myth that Tchigorin really praised knights more than bishops, in general. He had many games in which he exchanges knights and keeps bishops. Now, he praised them, and played them very well, having memorable wins that way, sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/kamsky-wins-game-4-to-level-match-score-2-2/comment-page-1/#comment-93794</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you notice? Take a look at the position after the moves 49.Rc7 Qd6... I see it as a classical and spectacular example of the Knights Pair crushing the Bishops Pair!! Tchigorin is for sure smiling a lot with this Kamsky game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you notice? Take a look at the position after the moves 49.Rc7 Qd6&#8230; I see it as a classical and spectacular example of the Knights Pair crushing the Bishops Pair!! Tchigorin is for sure smiling a lot with this Kamsky game!</p>
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		<title>By: VB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far very interesting gaemes. Even the two draws were extremely interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far very interesting gaemes. Even the two draws were extremely interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Wim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great and interesting game by Gata!</description>
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