Reports | June 19, 2011 3:21

Kings' R7: Carlsen beats Ivanchuk, sole leader again

Kings' R7: Carlsen beats Ivanchuk, sole leader againMagnus Carlsen is the sole leader again at the Kings' Tournament in Medias, Romania. On Saturday the Norwegian defeated Vassily Ivanchuk, who in the ending played surprisingly fast and lost control. Sergey Karjakin faced another 3...f5 Ruy Lopez in which Teimour Radjabov had done his homework very well. Liviu-Dieter Nisipeanu had a nice advantage against Hikaru Nakamura but then spoilt it and so he also had to be satisfied with a draw.

General info

The Kings Tournament takes place June 11-21 at the Natural Gas Documentation and Information Centre in Medias, Romania. Magnus Carlsen, Vassily Ivanchuk, Sergey Karjakin, Hikaru Nakamura, Teimour Radjabov and Liviu-Dieter Nisipeanu play a double round-robin with one rest day after five rounds. The rate of play is 2 hours for 40 moves, then 1 hour for 20 moves and then 15 minutes to finish the game, with a 30-second increment after move 60. No draws are allowed before move 30. Games start 15.30 local time (14.30 CET).

Round 7 report by GM Dorian Rogozenco

In the seventh round Magnus Carlsen retook his leadership by beating Vassily Ivanchuk with the white pieces. The Norwegian didn’t get much out of the opening in a Ragozin but kept on fighting, slowly improving his position. After the exchange of queens Carlsen nicely outplayed his strong opponent in endgame. Especially impressive was the way he created more and more weaknesses in Black’s camp first by advancing his pawns on the kingside, and then by switching doing the same on the opposite wing.

Carlsen-Ivanchuk

Carlsen beats Ivanchuk in a Ragozin - in the background organizer Elisabeta Polihroniade and webmaster Andrei Petroiae

Karjakin-Radjabov saw another Jaenisch/Schliemann Gambit, where the Azerbaijani Grandmaster showed his excellent home preparation and achieved a draw confidently. It must be said that this 3...f5 in the Ruy Lopez is holding very well so far – in no game did White succeed to show an opening advantage against it. Does it mean that the line will become popular in the near future at the top level? The answer very much seems to be “yes”.

Radjabov and Karjakin with Rogozenco at the daily briefing

Radjabov and Karjakin with Rogozenco at the daily briefing

Nisipeanu got a pleasant advantage on the White side against Nakamura’s Sicilian Najdorf, but then let it quickly slip away. In an equal position White forced a repetition of moves in order to secure the draw.

Nisipeanu-Nakamura with the first move being executed by Spanish journo Leontxo Garcia

Nisipeanu-Nakamura with the first move being executed by Spanish journo Leontxo Garcia

Photos © Ionut Anisca

Thus after 7 rounds Carlsen is leading the tournament with 5 points, half a point more than Karjakin. Nakamura finds himself in the third place with 3.5 points.

Magnus Carlsen reached 5/7 and a 2913 performance rating

Magnus Carlsen reached 5/7 and a 2913 performance rating

Games round 7 - notes by GM Dorian Rogozenco

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g9's picture

Carlsen must be reading these comments on chessvibes

Bobby Fiske's picture

Hmmm, I wonder what the Carlsen-deniers will come up with this time?! ;-)

gg's picture

That Ivanchuk actually is better than Carlsen but just wasn't at his best (this time either, Boris) :-)

mishanp's picture

Not sure that was quite the in-form Ivanchuk Gelfand had in mind...

rogge's picture

It's like this: Ivanchuk lost, Carlsen didn't win.

Thomas's picture

Funny that the "usual suspects" (Carlsen fans and fanboys) come up with such a series of comments before anyone else has even spoken his mind ... . As to Gelfand: he is entitled to his opinion, he knows a thing or 25 about chess, he might beat all of you in a simul.

Nima's picture

Don't take them too seriously Thomas. According to a recent poll, their average age is 12 and the rating around 1600. ;-)

Bobby Fiske's picture

Oh, how I wish I could be 12 again and reach Elo 1600!

columbo's picture

me too !

Zeblakob's picture

You are da man Bobby, go ahead ...

S3's picture

Well said Thomas. By the way, what did Gelfand say about Ivanchuk ?

regondi's picture

Interesting that the condition of "in-form" is only relevant to Ivanchuck and not to Carlsen for some reason.

Thomas's picture

The reason should be obvious: Ivanchuk is well known for his wild form swings - that's why one can get seasick looking at his rating progress chart. Generally they occur between tournaments, now within the event: things looked much brighter for him after his first-round win.

eiae's picture

Haven't you noticed he wins rating points in lower tournaments and lose them in top tournaments? There are exceptions, of course, but the trend is clear.

Thomas's picture

I checked Ivanchuk's results and Elo curve since 2007. Conclusion beforehand: at the very least, the exceptions are numerous - actually both ways: he can also lose rating points in relatively weaker events (not shown below).
He crossed Elo 2780, or came very close, three times. In the first and third case (Oct 2007 and May 2011) you have a certain point - he did well in weaker events.

But let's have a look at 2008/2009:
July 2008 Elo 2781
- Russian Team Championship 7.5/11 +13
- Mtel 8/10!!! +30
October 2008 Elo 2786
- Aerosvit (Carlsen, Karjakin, Shirov, Svidler and others) 7/11 +10
- Dortmund 4/7 +-0
- Sochi GP 6.5/13 -14 [outlier]
- Tal Memorial 6/9 +10
- Bilbao 5/10 -2
Now the dark side of the medal:
April 2009 Elo 2746
- Nanjing 4/10 -16
- Corus 5.5/13 -22
- Linares 8/14 +5 [outlier]
July 2009 Elo 2703!
- Russian Club Cup 3/7 -11
- Nalchik GP 5.5/13 -14
- MTel 3/8 -18

Partly tentative conclusion afterwards: When Ivanchuk is in form, he can do well anywhere against anyone. When he is not in form, he does poorly - anywhere against anyone. And I don't think you refuted my previous post ... .

regondi's picture

The point I was trying to make is that "not being in form" is an easy out for any Ivanchuck loss. Ivanchuck loses to Carlsen; "Well, he was obviously our of form." Ivanchuck beats Carlsen; "See! Gelfand was right."

Thomas's picture

OK that's a valid point. It may be futile to interpret Gelfand's _exact_ words, I will do so anyway: He did not say "Ivanchuk in form will beat Carlsen in a game (or match)", he did say "Ivanchuk in form plays better than Carlsen". It incorporates all games, not just the ones they play against each other, and it may be more abstract and impossible to quantify. Maybe "Ivanchuk has a deeper chess understanding" or "Ivanchuk is more creative" or ..... . If two players score the same number of points, is it still possible that one played better than the other? I would say yes - if chess is science or art in addition to sport - but it will always remain a matter of (personal) taste as well as style preference. Is Picasso better than van Gogh, is Mozart better than Bach?? :)

In a way it can still be considered a compliment for Carlsen?! At least some Carlsen fans will agree that Ivanchuk is, or at least can be a chess genius. If such a player plays better than Carlsen only in good form (which happens, on average, maybe in every third event) it says something about Carlsen's strength - and noone will deny that Carlsen is the MUCH more consistent and stable player. This translates into his higher Elo, as Elo reflects average rather than peak performance.

rogge's picture

“Ivanchuk in form plays better than Carlsen”

Gelfand also probably would've said "Carlsen in form plays better than Ivanchuk", depending on how the question was asked.

More iinteresting, maybe: Carlsen in form vs Ivanchuk in form. How to measure "better"? Style, creativity, accuracy, stamina, fighting spirit, etc? That's a matter of taste. A method which gives an objective measure imo is comparing best TPRs. Ivanchuk M-Tel 2008: 2977. Carlsen Nanjing 2009: 3002. Pretty close.

As for "Ivanchuk on average better than Carlsen in every third event". Carlsen finished ahead of Ivanchuk in 13 of the last 14 classical tourneys they both played in.

misha's picture

They will just say , what they have always been saying.
Carlsen is the one of the greatest talents, the only thing he has to show case is whether he can show the necessary preparation and ability to soak up pressure to win the world chess champion ship.

Will he dominate in say a match against another good contender like aronian?
Hard to say.
About the current champion vishy , clearly he has got the will , the talent and the ability to soak up pressure which is necessary to become the world chess champion.

gg's picture

"you are missing the point, as usual"

Probably, but admit that it's just awesome that Carlsen has crushed Ivanchuk six times in four years while Anand and Kramnik together have one measly win in ten years!

S3's picture

you are missing the point, as usual. ivanchuk at bazna is defeated by carlsen, karjakin twice, and nisipeanu. he is playing below his potential, and these ups and downs of ivanchuk are well known. So in some events he is " shaky and easier to beat" (I'm still not sure who blueofnoon claims to be quoting by the way). That has nothing to do with Carlsen or any other player.

Lee's picture

There's no denying Carlson!

ebutaljib's picture

Who is Carlson?

john's picture

Carlsen has the will to fight and to win, just like Fischer and Karpov and Kasparov. Well done Carlsen, full point well earned!

Celso's picture

"Carlsen has the will to fight and to win",..........Most of the time!

gg's picture

6-2 to Carlsen head to head against Ivanchuk now, the two losses came in 2008.

Zeblakob's picture

Do you mean that Chucky iz a potential client of MC?

gg's picture

Definitely not, it's just that Ivanchuk is much more unlucky with his form when playing Carlsen than when he is playing Kramnik and Anand.

S3's picture

:)

Sumit Balan's picture

Nice Swindle and 'Rekthna' Win !!!!!

The Golden Knight's picture

Carlsen is now close to his all-time-high. His liverating is 2824,3. I think he is very focused on winning this tournament, and be the new #1 in the next FIDE-rating. He wants to tell the chess community that he is the best player in the World, no matter what the "Gadaffi-clan" think...

Grasshooper's picture

If he wants to show he is the best he should take on anand in a match but he is obviously too scared to do that. Carlsen seems to be the best everytine except if anand is on the other side of the board. 8 -1 record against anand with two recent losses. how can u claim carlsen is the best because of 4 or 5 rating points??

bhabatosh's picture

let them bark ... for some people best player means rating but for the world it is the World Championship which matters....
Carlsen was afraid of playing candidates , thats the bottom line.
he is playing very good beyond doubt but he avoided the candidates tournament .

so wait for another 2-3 years when he gets chance to QUALIFY for the best players trophy !

The Golden Knight's picture

In tennis the best player is the one on top of the ATP-ranking. He gets there by winning great tournaments.

To be olympic champion in tennis means little to Ferderer or Nadal. The wan´t to win on the Grand Slam-tour!

ebutaljib's picture

Thats not true at all! Winning the olympics is something special. It's a once in 4 years oppurtunity, winning one of the grand slam tournaments is 4 in a year oppurtunity. I will never forget Agassi's joy when he won Olympic gold, despite winning everything else there was before. I don't think there is a tennis player who wouldn't trade one of the Grand Slam wins for Olympic gold.

Bobby Fiske's picture

"Scared" is a BS word in this matter. Magnus DID sign up for the present WC cycle. FIDE broke that contract by changeing the Candidates rules. That's it.

Magnus is a man principles. He will never accept Gelfands ticket if it was offered.

Gelfand has earned his match. Good luck to him!

S3's picture

But still... He didn't play/finish any qualifiers. No world cup, no Grand Prix, no candidate matches. That's unfortunate if you want to be the undisputed #1.

known1's picture

if he wins the remaining rounds, will he surpass garry's record?

javabean's picture

No. But regardless, it makes no sense comparing ratings of different epochs.

help's picture

No it doesn't. But if anything it should get easier with time to reach Garry's record because of rating inflation.

danny1's picture

no.

Celso's picture

NOT what we will watch, but what we would like to!

ebutaljib's picture

Again the answer is: Anand vs. Gelfand

gg's picture

Gelfand vs Leko!

Celso's picture

Sincerely... Anand vs Carlsen or Anand vs Gelfand?
What we rather watch?

Rousseau's picture

Anand VS Gelfand

Carlsen did not qualify to play Anand

Albos's picture

"We" (people posting to chess blogs) would most likely watch both.

Of course, I would also prefer to watch a match with big sponsors and the question in focus: Who is the best player in the world?

Imho, a Anand-Gelfand match will not be a bad thing to witness at all (if it actually takes place) but compared to some historical matches or possible alternatives it pretty much seems irrelevant.

Thomas's picture

We will watch Anand-Carlsen later this year in Bilbao, Tal Memorial and London. Or if you mean a WCh match, it will take place in 2014 or 2015 if three things happen:
- Anand defends his title against Gelfand
- Carlsen plays the candidates event, and
- Carlsen wins the candidates event.
IMO, only for the first case chances are (somewhat) higher than 50%.

danny1's picture

it's highly unlikely that an anand-gelfand match will even take place. which rich sponsor will bankroll the event when he could pay for anand-carlsen instead? the only chance of that match taking place is if gelfand gets a sponsor from israel.

otherwise anand will do what kasparov did when shirov qualified, and jump ship and play the most realistic contender instead.

Thomas's picture

I made a similar statement on Dailydirt, while not endorsing it - my words were something like "I am afraid this [an Anand-Carlsen match, bypassing Gelfand who qualified] could happen" rather than "this should happen". I got trashed mostly by Anand fans ("Anand will NEVER do what Kasparov did") but also by some Carlsen fans.

Does it make sense that Carlsen's chances for such a match have increased by NOT playing the candidates event, where he might have undergone the same fate as other (fan) favorites ??

With respect to Gelfand's apparently controversial statement, it might also be a reaction to the hype around Carlsen - now in full swing again after he regained a 0.5 point lead in Bazna - and to related suggestions that an Anand-Gelfand match won't attract sponsors etc. . I don't know if he follows chess forums, but journalists also ask that type of questions in interviews (if not in this particular one).

ebutaljib's picture

It is true: Anand will never just chose somebody to play for the title, and he will never try to create some other organization or something like that. If the match will be organised (and it will be) he will play, otherwise he won't do a thing. It is not his problem and duty to lose any sleep over this. He is ready to play - organization is not his problem.

The Golden Knight's picture

Anand-Carlsen for sure!!!

The Golden Knight's picture

Anand-Carlsen for sure!!!

loop's picture

this win goes straight in top 5 games by carlsen

Creemer's picture

Carleen will wait all actual strong players get older then become WCCh, easily !!

Stanley Peters's picture

Magnus is a rare talent, we all have known that for a while. In this sense there are probably no genuine Magnus haters at this point in time.

A lot of us wanted to see Magnus challenge Anand for the WC title.

A lot of us, if not most of us, also wanted to see Magnus take on Kramnik in the Candidates final, and wondered if he could actually beat Kramnik one on one.

None of those things happened because Magnus shied away from the Candidates. The only conclusion is - he did not want to play 1-2-1 matches with either Kramnik or Anand or for that matter with any other Candidates qualifier. Magnus does not yet have the confidence or the stomach for a 1-2-1 fight.

He is happy with tournament play where, undoubtedly, he has been the most successful player over the last couple of years.

gg's picture

"The only conclusion is – he did not want to play 1-2-1 matches with either Kramnik or Anand or for that matter with any other Candidates qualifier. Magnus does not yet have the confidence or the stomach for a 1-2-1 fight."

The only conclusion indeed, unless some deluded fanboy would get the hilarious idea to mention the cycle change etc.

onurengin's picture

In any case,
Carlsen's game reminds me those grandmasters draw at 8 or 18 moves, saying, it was a drawn position, no need to play etc.:)

Luxusohr's picture

This right left was very much Capablanca like.

kaboom's picture

This game against Ivanchuck is much what Carlsen is about:
sqeeezing half a point more out of the position than most of us would think possible. That makes him 2824 (by now)

blueofnoon's picture

I agree with other kibitzer.

Whoever wants to support and finance Anand - Gelfand, it would be good for chess. But I doubt the match will even take place.

FIDE said the deadline for bid application is end of June (or maybe July, I am not sure), and has anyone made an official statement for application?

Celso's picture

Now, maybe Gaddafi will!

gg's picture

Ivanchuk has often been tough to beat for the top players. The last ten years Anand has beaten him once while Kramnik hasn't won even once during the same period. Amazing that Carlsen already has six wins against him since 2007.

blueofnoon's picture

Yep. Those who claim Ivanchuk is "shaky and easier to beat" conveniently forgets the fact you pointed out.

Ivanchuk, on the other hand, did beat Kramnik in Dortmund back in 2008.

S3's picture

A couple of days ago you wrote that Ivanchuk usually gets his points of lower rated players. I think Mishanp explains very nicely how credible you and your facts are. Comparing apples and oranges again.

S3's picture

Today ivanchuk lost in +- half an hour in under 25 moves.
His tpr is 100dreds of points below his rating. This tournament he does look a bit shaky and easy to beat, doesn't he blueofnoon? gg ??

mishanp's picture

It's not that your stats are wrong as such... but it's somewhat less surprising that Kramnik's last win was in 2001 if you look at how little they've played (as I'm sure you did!) e.g. they played no classical games in 2002, 2004 and 2005, and only 1 in 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2009.

Since 2007 Carlsen's played Ivanchuk 19 times, as far as I can tell. Kramnik - 7. It's also a bit of a stretch to suggest any clear recent dominance by Carlsen over Ivanchuk. Carlsen took an early lead with 2 wins in Linares 2007. Then in 2008 they played 7 times and shared two wins each. In 2009 they drew 6 games. Ivanchuk won their one game in 2010 and now this game in Bazna.

That said, yesterday's game does make you wonder whether Ivanchuk has any psychological problems against Carlsen. Carlsen played brilliantly, but the speed Ivanchuk moved in the ending was sheer madness.

mishanp's picture

That should be "Carlsen won their one game in 2010".

Thomas's picture

Carlsen gets my credit for yesterday's game - at least for being persistent, "brilliant" is a big word (did he play any moves that deserve two exclamation marks?). But their game at Corus 2010 was sheer madness and a complete offday from Ivanchuk - before anyone disagrees, check the game:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1569945
I was watching live at the venue, my impression (and the one of the commentators) was "Ivanchuk gave presents, Carlsen said 'thank you' ".
You don't have to be Carlsen to beat Ivanchuk on his offday, a respectable 2600-2700 GM is good enough (e.g. Nisipeanu - referring mostly to his earlier wins - or Wesley So).

gg's picture

"It’s not that your stats are wrong as such… but it’s somewhat less surprising that Kramnik’s last win was in 2001 if you look at how little they’ve played"

Well, in their last ten games Kramnik has +0 -1 =9 so Ivanchuk has been a rather tricky opponent for him the last decade. It's +1 -1 =16 in their last 18, Ivanchuk's loss coming after blundering away a winning position in time trouble in Corus 2001. So on the whole one can't just say that they have played few games and that this is why Kramnik has won so few of them the last dozen years.

In his three latest games against Ivanchuk Carlsen has +2 -0 =1 but overall it's "only" +6 -2 =11 in their 19 games. But then Carlsen had just turned 16 and was far from a top ten player in the beginning of that period, while Kramnik was World Champion most of the years when he played those games. Just like Kramnik Anand has +1 -1 =16 against Ivanchuk in their last 18, so Carlsen has done comparatively well against Ivanchuk.

mishanp's picture

I don't really disagree with your general point, just the way you use stats. Why did you choose the last 10 or last 18 for Kramnik - Ivanchuk? Presumably because the 11th and 19th were Kramnik wins (actually, I think the win was the 10th game, and then after 19 Kramnik had a few wins in close succession). Or the last 3 for Carlsen - Ivanchuk? Plus if you don't specify classical that's wrong, as Ivanchuk won both games at Amber for the second year in a row. (I approve of not using rapid, for what it's worth, but I'm sure if Carlsen had won those games you'd have included them!)

Or there's talking about an Ivanchuk blunder in one game against Kramnik while not looking at all the other games, or talking about the 16-year-old Carlsen as if he wasn't considered a future World Champion at the time...

I think it has the opposite effect from the one you want to stretch every statistic. Carlsen doesn't need that.

gg's picture

"Plus if you don’t specify classical that’s wrong, as Ivanchuk won both games at Amber for the second year in a row. (I approve of not using rapid, for what it’s worth, but I’m sure if Carlsen had won those games you’d have included them!)"

I of course only count classical games, so "I'm sure if Carlsen had won those games you'd have included them" is wrong and with that I leave this discussion.

mishanp's picture

"I of course only count classical games, so “I’m sure if Carlsen had won those games you’d have included them” is wrong and with that I leave this discussion."

I agree we should leave the discussion - just to explain: my reason for assuming you'd use rapid (& blindfold & blitz) games if they helped your case is that you've been happily using them recently to claim Kramnik is both Carlsen and Nakamura's "client".

ronny's picture

gg has an old history of coming with pointless data and arguments.
as a die hard carlsen fan it is hard for him to understand a very basic thing.
chess history is dominated by world champions . not by some one who is good at beating lower rated players.
Let carlsen take on aronian / kramnik in a match.
In a match between carlsen and kramnik ,atleast i would put my money on kramnik.

gg's picture

"Let carlsen take on aronian / kramnik in a match."

They just aren't good enough to be worthy opponents, didn't Grischuk annihilate them both a few weeks ago? :-)

misha's picture

By that logic anand has beaten kramnik , kraminki beat kasparov hence anand greater than kasparov . (which is not true) .

without beating anand / kramink / aronian in matches , carlsen can only show case that he is good at beating lower ranked players.

gg's picture

Saying that Carlsen has done comparatively well against Ivanchuk equals saying that Anand is greater than Kasparov? :-)

misha's picture

I think you are silly.

When a blogger posts a certain statistic he is trying to prove a certain point.

In your case by giving stats that carlsen has a good record against ivanchuk compared to say kramnik , what is the point you are trying to prove?

Tom Warton's picture

Carleen will wait all actual strong players get older then become WCCh, easily !!

ebutaljib's picture

Who is Carleen?

Tom Warton's picture

Carleen will wait all actual strong players get older then become WCCh, easily !!

Septimus's picture

Where exactly did Nisi have an advantage over Nakamura in game 1? If anything, it seemed like Black was better on the Q-side.

Mauricio Valdés's picture

I´m one of the biggest fans of Ivanchuck.
But I´m must say:
"Chucky got out-Cucked by Carlsen!"

roger's picture

good lord. is this Human play? from now onwards if someone says that the position is drawn i will shown him this game.

ronny's picture

ivanchuk blundered , what is so great abt carlsen's play?

rick's picture

Yes thats right, chucky is bad so carlsen not great..

gustavo's picture

When I read all this Carlsen´s fan club boys commentaries about their hero , I think they believe that Carsen is already a better player than Karpov and Kasparov at theirs prime. I think that they believe Smyslov´s 45 years (1938- when at 17 he won extremely strong Moscow Championship -1983) among the 10 best players in the world are nothing compared to Carlsen´s results. This fan club boys even say that an Anand -Gelfand will not happen..... . Honestly speaking, are there people funnier than Carsen´s fan club members??

gg's picture

I'll return with a positive comment when Carlsen has been top ten for 45 years, before that I guess saying that Carlsen is playing well equals Smyslov bashing. :-)

BlunderSuck's picture

This is why it is scary...Carslen didn't reach is prime yet...lol

The Golden Knight's picture

What do you think is most likely to happen:

1) The FIDE-president playing chess with Gadaffi.
2) Magnus playes in the WC-match instead of Gelfand.
:)

S3's picture

As if they ever heard of Smyslov. You know their number one fanboy of the (almost) live ratings list wrote how Gelfand was not a real contender only one year ago? It's a crazy bunch.

SXL's picture

Not one comment about the opening used, the system entered into, Chucky's overestimation of his position, and Carlsen's exploitation of that.

Just the regular endless infantile churn.

gg's picture

I can't say I take these discussions the least seriously, but they are fun anyway since some people get so annoyed when Carlsen is doing much better than their favourite players :-)

Carlsen's 6-2 against Ivanchuk can't just be explained away as Ivanchuk's "fault" since the latter does have much better stats against other players. As I said Kramnik hasn't beaten him in ten years in spite of Ivanchuk's being uneven.

I can especially recommend studying the games between Kramnik and Ivanchuk, the latter looks enormously strong in them. He missed a win and lost in Corus 2001, he probably missed wins in Tal Memorial 2009 and Corus 2010, he won in Dortmund 2008 etc, and still has +1 -1 =16 in their last 18 games, like Anand.

But against Carlsen Ivanchuk usually gets into much more trouble. As against Karjakin this week, but before that Ivanchuk had 4-0. So maybe Carlsen is good at creating problems for Ivanchuk, Aronian seems to have the same ability.

jmd85146's picture

I wonder if Chucky proposed a draw at some point and Carlsen refused?
Either way, Chucky must feel bad after losing a game that looked like a sure draw.
Well played by Carlsen.

Bartleby's picture

No, it didn't look like a sure draw. It started with a opening line that's supposed to give Black enough play in return for the slightly worse structure. But Ivanchuk never managed to find this supposed play. Carlsen, on the other hand, found ways to keep the small advantage, and build on it. Fine, positional play. Hard work. Creative ideas. Chucky will be able to appreciate this.

mishanp's picture

Carlsen on the game in his blog: http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?button=blog

"The ending was slightly better for white but without serious winning chances. As I was low on time Ivanchuk decided to play quickly. It contributed to some inaccuracies on critical junctions. On my part I managed to reach both time controls without mistakes. It is fair to say that I played a reasonably good game, although I needed some cooperation from Ivanchuk to win in the end."

Sander's picture

After seeing Magnus' game, you 'd think Karpov was his trainer, not Kasparov.

st32's picture

What I find so fascinating is that Carlsen wins a lot of games against 2700s in a text book style of play. Although I think Rogozenko got it bang on when he said that he wins by "finding every possible way to give his opponent ways to go wrong, however slightly."

Zeblakob's picture

So, do you think that he reached +2800 just by playing at chesscube? ;)

S3's picture

much the same like Ponomariov reached 2700 I guess.

Vasili's picture

frustrating internet transmition of this TURNELULUI

Septimus's picture

In Nisi-Nakamura, why not try 12...Nc5 instead of Qc7? It would somewhat relieve the pressure on d6 while targeting the e4 pawn. Black can swing a rook into the c5 as well.

S3's picture

Current Tpr compared to rating suggests he is out of form now. Play as well.

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