[lang_nl]Kramnik tegen Werle & Sebag[/lang_nl][lang_en]Kramnik plays Werle & Sebag[/lang_en]
[lang_nl]Vanmiddag begint om 14.00 in Enschede een bijzonder evenement. Voormalig wereldkampioen Vladimir Kramnik speelt in het kantoor van DGT Projects een simultaan tegen IGM Jan Werle en WGM Marie Sebag.[/lang_nl][lang_en]This afternoon, at 14:00 CET, in Enschede, the Netherlands a special event takes place: in a simultaneous exhibition, former world champion Vladimir Kramnik plays IGM Jan Werle & WGM Marie Sebag.[/lang_en]
[lang_nl]Wat is dit nou weer, horen we je denken. Een simultaan voor twee deelnemers? Nou ja, het zijn niet de minste natuurlijk. De match wordt georganiseerd in het nieuwe pand van DGT (Digital Game Technology), Hengelosestraat 66 in Enschede (vlakbij het station) en begint om 14.00 uur. De leiding is in handen van de bekende internationaal arbiter Geurt Gijssen, terwijl het commentaar wordt verzorgd door de Amerikaanse, in Nederland wonende, grootmeester Yasser Seirawan.
Foidos
Best een aardig idee eigenlijk, om zo je nieuwe software wereldwijd bekend te maken. Want dat is het natuurlijk: een pr-stunt van DGT Projects, het bedrijf bekend van de digitale klokken en borden waarmee toernooien wereldwijd live worden uitgezonden. DGT gaat namelijk hun nieuwe paradepaardje, het internetsysteem Foidos, voor het eerst live testen. Een veelbelovend softwaresysteem waarmee het volgen van schaakpartijen in de toekomst een totaal andere ervaring lijkt te worden:
"Naast het live-schaakbord en de registratie van de zetten, worden (naar keuze) ook diverse beelden van een schaakpartij of toernooi in beeld gebracht. De gezichten van de spelers bijvoorbeeld. Meteen is de reactie op een zet van de tegenstander te zien. Ook is het mogelijk beelden te krijgen van de speelomgeving, of van meerdere partijen in een toernooi tegelijk.
Tijdens de wedstrijd kan ook een venster worden geopend om live commentaar op de matches te volgen. Tijdens grote toernooien gebeurt dat altijd ter plekke in aparte zaaltjes. Nu kan iedereen op de hele wereld dat commentaar live volgen. Zelfs is er de mogelijkheid ingebouwd om via een chatkanaaal in discussie te gaan met degene die uitleg geeft. Wie dat wil kan Foidos zelfs koppelen aan een schaakanalyseprogramma op zijn computer. "
In december kwam ik in Dresden Albert Vasse tegen, de directeur van DGT, en hij liet mij op zijn laptop alvast een prototype van Foidos zien. Het zag er indrukwekkend uit: allerlei verschillende vensters, met een schaakstelling, met cameraposities en met een chatfunctie, die de gebruiker met zijn muis overal naartoe kon slepen. Het is de bedoeling de match Anand-Kramnik onder meer via Foidos gevolgd kan worden.
Wat doe je als je zulke grootse plannen hebt? Dan test je je systeem, en niet alleen binnenskamers, nee, maak er dan meteen maar een leuk evenement van. Vanmiddag is dus de wereldpremi?ɬ®re van Foidos, te volgen hier op de site van DGT of ook op de eigen Foidos-website. ChessVibes neemt vandaag een kijkje bij deze match in Enschede dus meer hierover zal volgen.[/lang_nl][lang_en]What is this?? we hear you think. A simul for two participants? Well, not the weakest ones. Jan Werle is a promising, 24-year-old Dutch grandmaster (2581) with a solid playing style - quite similar to that of Kramnik, whom he considers his idol. Marie Sebag is a 21-year old Fran?ɬßaise who holds the WGM and IM titles. She is one of the most talented female chess players and is currently the world's no. 8 with a rating of 2521.
The match takes place in the new office of DGT (Digital Game Technology), and starts at 14:00 CET. Well-known arbiter Geurt Gijssen will referee and IGM Yasser Seirawan will do live commenting.
Foidos
Not a bad idea, to promote a new piece of software like this. Because that's what it is of course: a pr stunt by DGT Projects, the company famous for their digital chess clocks and boards that make live coverage of chess tournaments possible. DGT will be testing their new showpiece: the internet system Foidos, for the first time live. A promising piece of software which seems to turn online chess into a completely new experience:
"With Foidos, the internet user will be able to watch all aspects of a chess game. Not just the moves, but close-ups of the player's faces, comments by a Grandmaster and integrated computer analysis of the position are transmitted with this revolutionary software. During the game windows can be opened to witness the commentary by top level GM's. Currently chess lovers have to visit a tournament for this experience. Now it will become accessible on the World Wide Web. Options to open a chat channel that connects the viewer with the commentator are built into the Foidos system. The user will also be able to link the games from a Foidos presentation to a chess playing program for further analysis."
In December I met with CEO of DGT Albert Vasse in Dresden and he showed me a prototype of Foidos on his laptop. It looked impressive: lots of different with a chess position, camera positions, and a chat function, which can be dragged everywhere by the user. The idea is that it will be possible to follow the match Anand-Kramnik via Foidos.
What do you do when you're that ambitious? You test your system, and not just behind closed doors, no, you create a nice event around it. This afternoon is the world premi?ɬ®re of Foidos, and it can be followed here at the DGT website or also at the Foidos website. ChessVibes will be present in Enschede today, so more news will follow.[/lang_en]
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Visser
5 years 2 months ago
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Still no games from the Russian team championship? I at least , can't seem to find them anywhere.
Dr. Wolfgang Berghorn
5 years 2 months ago
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I just had a call to DGT, and they suppose the system to be working in 10 minutes; hopefully I trust them!
Janis Nisii
5 years 2 months ago
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So, the only new feature of the program is at a beta test stage.
Good to know.
This is a flop.
Dr. Wolfgang Berghorn
5 years 2 months ago
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Sorry, it?Ǭ¥s mad and makes sad! I?Ǭ¥ve stopped working in my busy neurosurgical practice from 02.00 - 04.30 h p.m. to follow this DGT-event, but it?Ǭ¥s really worth northing!!!
Menno
5 years 2 months ago
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Eeeh, where are all the windows showing the faces of the players etc etc...
or am I the only one having trouble?!
Janis Nisii
5 years 2 months ago
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Well.. when I used the word flop, I was referring to their communication (I?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢m talking about this press release, for example: http://foidos.com/20080327_DGT_pressrelease_kramnik_simul.pdf)
I personally welcome the Foidos project as extremely interesting, and I believe it can represent a big step forward (together with video reports such as the recent Amber ones) to popularize chess events over the internet (probably the only natural media for chess) hence attracting new and better sponsors to the chess world.
They could have stated clear that this event was meant to publicize their work (still in progress) in order to attract sponsors and, hopefully, make it better.
The ambiguity of their press release has obviously raised different expectations among chess fans that, of course, have by now been disappointed.
So, it wasn?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t my intention to criticize the product, and I?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢m sure every chess enthusiast is hoping everything will work fine for the Anand-Kramnik match.
I can?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t envision, though, why you?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢re taking part of the responsibility for yourself in all this: you just reported the info they gave out and what they showed you back in December.
Visser
5 years 2 months ago
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Mijn dank is groot Peter.
Ron
5 years 2 months ago
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Foidos is geen (oud) Grieks volgens mijn woordenboek.
arne
5 years 2 months ago
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True, it's spelled with b, not with d. So, it's indeed intriguing where they got 'Foidos' from!
arne
5 years 2 months ago
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Foidos (or actually phoidos) means 'bright' or 'pure' and is a nickname for the god Apollo.
Janis Nisii
5 years 2 months ago
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That's right tilde-person, the nickname of Apollo was phoibos with a b.
In my old Greek dictionary there's not such a word. There's the verb pheidomai = to spare, to abstain, to refrain. The relative noun is pheido-ous, though, meaning saving.
It could be modern Greek, with an apophony that occured in the meanwhile (from 'ei' to 'o'), but still it could only mean saving, or something that make people save.
I'm afraid this is off topic, but I'm too curious now. C'mon Peter, can't you ask them? :)
xtra
5 years 2 months ago
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nope, thats quite a way to introduce a new product to the market. hehe.
Janis Nisii
5 years 2 months ago
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Hummm...it's not working, or not working well, is it?
Felix
5 years 2 months ago
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Btw., where does "foidos" come from? is it from greek "horao, eidon" where in old greek there was a digamma (weidon) and which leads to videre in latin? if yes, the "f" is strange since the digamma was spoken as a w/v and not like a f (which is a phi in greek). So maybe it's from another word I don't know.
Or does it come from another language? the -os at the end sounds quite old greek but of course it could also be spanish or sth. like this...
peter
5 years 2 months ago
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Found them at http://russiachess.org/online/
matthew
5 years 2 months ago
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well we got to see the games but its safe to say everything else was a total failure
peter
5 years 2 months ago
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Indeed, Felix, they said it comes from the Greek language but I don't know the details.
Ron
5 years 2 months ago
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Hoe zijn de partijen afgelopen?
peter
5 years 2 months ago
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2-0 voor Kramnik, er volgt nog een filmpje deze week!
Dr. Wolfgang Berghorn
5 years 2 months ago
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Marvellous idea of DGT trying to ameliorate transmissions from great chess events! It would be a phantastic pleasure to see the WCC in October 2008 in Bonn by a very well workung system like FOIDOS! Thanks a lot in advance!
xtra
5 years 2 months ago
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it seems to be working now but only a little. there is some commentary on kramnik - sebag. but it is seriously annoying that the commentary window returns to the end every time it updates. which is often.
xtra
5 years 2 months ago
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at least you can "watch" the games now. so its not a total flop. just a pretty big flop. must be reassuring for the one in charge.
peter
5 years 2 months ago
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Hi guys, a little note from the DGT office: it's not a flop, as it wasn't the company's ambition to have everything working yet today. Perhaps their press release was a bit optimistic, perhaps I was, but in any case, the idea is to have everything perfect somewhere around August. They're not testing the video functionality yet and (yes, slightly embarrassing), they're having some problems with their DGT boards. But this is what testing is for; let's hope everything's fine around Anand-Kramnik.
~~~~
5 years 2 months ago
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Appolo heet foibos, met een b.
~~~~
5 years 2 months ago
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Apollo...
Janis Nisii
5 years 2 months ago
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It could actually be Latin. The archaic spelling of 'Foedus' could be foidos (with the indoeuropen diphthong 'oi' still there). Foedus meaning treaty, union, alliance and...Federation. Are they teasing the FIDE? ;)
arne
5 years 2 months ago
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You're probably right, Janis. And it would also explain the f instead of ph. But can we show that this form was actually used at one point, for example in an Indo-european root, or in some proto-Latin text?
buitenlander
5 years 2 months ago
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Peter, I'm just wondering what happened to the filmpje.
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