Reports | February 23, 2009 5:44

Mamedyarov accuses opponent of cheating, withdraws from Aeroflot

MamedyarovBreaking news from Moscow, Russia. At the Aeroflot Open, top seeded player Shakhryiar Mamedyarov from Azerbaijan Sunday accused his opponent Igor Kurnosov (Russia) of cheating, and after talking to the organizers, Mamedyarov has now withdrawn from the tournament.

GM Shakhryiar Mamedyarov (Azerbaijan) was the top seed in Moscow this year and after five rounds he shared the lead with GM Alexander Moiseenko (Ukraine) and GM Igor Kurnosov (Russia). In the sixth round, Mamedyarov played Kurnosov with White and lost quickly:

During the opening phase, Kurnosov played fast but also left the board several times, taking his coat that was hanging over his chair with him. Mamedyarov started to feel uncomfortable about his opponent's behaviour and offered a draw at an early stage. To his surprise, Kurnosov refused and then left the board after every move, going to the toilet or for a smoke. He kept on playing the strongest moves and at move 21, Mamedyarov had to resign.

After the game Mamedyarov checked the game with the computer and noticed that all of his opponent's moves had been the first choice of Rybka. He accused his opponent of cheating and told the tournament organizers that he would withdraw from the tournament.

Answering our request to comment on the situation, Mamedyarov sent us his official protest letter, sent to the tournament organizer:

To: The organizer of the AEROFLOT-OPEN tournament
Alexander Grigorievich Bakh

From: GM Shakhriyar Mamedyarov

Explanation of my protest

Dear Alexander Grigorievich,

On 22.09.2009 the game between myself and Igor Kurnosov was played.

During the game my opponent went out of the playing hall after each move, took his coat and withdrew himself on the toilet. After suspicion of unfair play on move 14 I offered a draw, he refused. We quickly played 11 moves, on the 12th move I played a move which confused my opponent. The next moves from him were given as first choice by Rybka, which quickly allowed him to win the game.

Due to this series of suspicions, having to do with the unusual behaviour of my opponent, Igor Kurnosov, I hereby lodge a protest and refuse to continue participation in the tournament.

I hope that this kind of situation will not occur in the future.

Sincerely,

GM Shakhriyar Mamedyarov

"It's not a very convincing claim," said chief arbiter Geurt Gijssen on the phone. "It's all theory until 16...Qd6 and after that Black doesn't make very strange moves. We checked the game with arbiters Fillipowicz and Vasiukov, but they didn't think it was impossible to find the moves."

Geurt GijssenAccording to Gijssen, Mamedyarov already had his suspicions during the game. "Before the end he asked me if the game could be removed from the website, and if we could keep an eye on his opponent. We tried to do that, but in a playing hall with 160 players that's not easy. But I did notice that Kurnosov took his jacket with him, every time he left the board. After the game I asked him to show the contents of his pockets, but all that we found was a pack of sigarets, a lighter and a pen."

Convinced that something was wrong and upset, Mamedyarov didn't sign his score sheet but instead told the arbiter that he resigned, and was going to leave the tournament. "He then talked to Alexander Bakh" for a long time, but he remained adamant," said Gijssen.

Tags:

Share |
Peter Doggers's picture
Author: Peter Doggers

Founder and editor-in-chief of ChessVibes.com, Peter is responsible for most of the chess news and tournament reports. Often visiting top events, he also provides photos and videos for the site. He's a 1.e4 player himself, likes Thai food and the Stones.

Chess.com

Comments

svetlana's picture

To look a photos from tournament! Kurnosov sits at a board almost all time . Mamedjarov has strongly exaggerated the statement, that Kurnosov left after each course.

Bacchus's picture

Dear Castro,

I believe it's the problem of your perception (maybe visual) if you manage to see in my postings any nationalistic attack on Azeri players just for bein' Azeris. In fact, I sympathized with Mamedyarov before this incident.

So I am fixing the problem. And yes, they are falling into the habit of causing scandals for no reason. So in this context one should better discuss the hateful antiarmenian statements of Radjabov, still present, among other things, on Azeri websites.

In all other respects, i share your opinion.

flordiane's picture

solutions to prove if kornosov is guilty:
1) lie detector test
2) cctv records will be reviewed

one of bobby fischer's demand for the world championship match
was a separate rest rooms with glass wall and ceiling to avoid cheating but was not granted.

John's picture

Mamedjarov behaviour is a disgrace.

If Mamedjarov is unable to prove his claims then he should be banned from future events for bring chess into a bad light !!!

Good example of poor sportsmanship !

flordiane's picture

every chess player is proned to chess conspiracy.

Only one person had surviived the chess conspiracy.

The late GREAT BOBBY FISCHER

no more no less.............nobody..........

flordiane's picture

want to knw FISCHER GAME SECRET?

then play not like a grandmaster but like an investigator, lawyer, scientist, matemathecian, phyicist, philosopher, crime buster, CIA, FBI, Military, mind boggler, psychic, politician, mechanic, warrior, secret agent, psychologist and most of all a genius.and etcetera........

Bacchus's picture

Castro,

If you can make some very "commentable generalizations" on Azeri players - go ahead, but the problem (for'em and maybe for u) is that leading Azeri players are always ready for a row, causing scandals in the chess community with a "desirable" regularity.

Kurnosov won Hastings recently with a very remarkable 7.5/9, he was the first in Arctic Chess Challenge as well... in August 2008. Now, he is accused of bein' a cheater without any evidentiary fact. Why? Because Mamedyarov, you see, can't even lose to a 2600+ player? Well, he did lost to some very low-rated players a couple of months ago and he left the tournament similarly. The only difference is that this time he finally decided to pin a label "CHEATER" on a player who dared to beat Mister-2700-Elite-Player in just 21 moves.

Both Radjabov and Mamedyarov escaped penalties so far, but that's enough.

Castro's picture

Ok, you criticize two players who happened to be both azeri.
Or also criticize something about them being azeri?
See the difference? I can.
In the mean time, I'm the first to agree that (as we know) Mamedjarov abused and should be punished. Irrespective to Kurnusov complaining or not!
And I also think Kurnusov should complain. Then Mamedjarov would be in fact punished, and by more than one way.
As for him abandoning tournaments, I think that is perfectly acceptable, as long as he assumes the consequences (maybe losing money and/or future invitacions, or so) and as long as he respects everybody, which seems not to be the case here.

Castro's picture

@Anon
Please read again what I wrote, and what I was answering to. That, and my saying that it was just as an example, will show you that you completly misunderstand my words, in your comment.

Castro's picture

@Rob Brown
Again a rushed conclusion! If one have acess to Rybka's analysis during a game, one can choose a 2nd or 3rd best moves it gives, and not the best, every move. One can even do that in order to look inocent when facing rushed conclusions ;-) But no, I don't think Kurnusov cheated there, either.

Castro's picture

@Bacchus
Your generalization on azeri players is simply too much... "uncommentable".
As for
"(Kurnusov) didn’t even answer to his faked accusations, deserving a respect"
The comment is WHAT??? This is the kind of (no) logic and (faked) common sense that bring the humanity in so much trouble!
Something I agree with you:
"So I guess it is high time for those guys to learn how to lose with dignity"
As long as "those guys" can stand for "everybody".

Thomas's picture

Flordiane, the different number of moves mostly just reflects the different openings - it is quite hard, if not impossible to win in 21 moves against the "Berlin Wall" (if your opponent doesn't blunder). If anything, So's combination (23. Pxc7, then six more moves before it was clearly +-) is more difficult to find [without a computer] - of course I don't suggest that Wesley So was cheating.

One common thing, though: Wesley So and Igor Kurnosov are quite young players and may well be worth more than their (present) rating.

Rob Brown's picture

Mark Crowther at the The Week in Chess site points out that 16....Nxb2!! followed by c5 was, in fact a more more brutal denouement than Kornusov's TN. This certainly makes Mamedyarov' accusation appear specious.

Bacchus's picture

Ladies and guys,

A very similar situation with Mamedyarov in a leading role occurred a few months ago, in Czech Open 2008 (average rating 2299). Shahriyar was an ELO-favorite (2742). The second seed was Motylev (2674).

In round two, Mamedyarov lost to IM Genba (2429), later in round 6 - to GM Buhmann (2561). After a draw in round 7 with Smith Axel (2427 - no title), he pulled out of the event. In the final ranking crosstable after 9 rounds he "won" the 63 place.

http://chess-results.com/tnr14553.aspx?art=4&lan=1&fed=AZE&turdet=YES&fl...

This is kindova tradition for Azeri players to make rows and beat the air with lame excuses. At first, Radjabov with a very controversial, hysterical interview, calling Armenian chessplayers enemies, saying that "We all hated them" and hoping that "Allah will help us to defeat them". Later, the same Radjabov withdrew from Linares because of hotel robbery. Now, Mamedyarov's turn to be a newsmaker, although he appeared to be a pleasant and modest person. Kurnosov the Shahriyar Winner didn't even answer to his faked accusations, deserving a respect.

So I guess it is high time for those guys to learn how to lose with dignity.

val's picture

To Bachus. Txs for your relevant information clarifying many things. Indeed, some characters (quite irrespective of their ethnic origin) may stop at nothing in pursueance of their own interests. In all probability this incident has little to do with cheating in the sense which is meant here. I think M should be at least reprimanded for his behaviour.

Anon's picture

@Castro on 24 February 2009 18:38 PM

"First, to give just an example, It would allow to blame almost every victim for every crime!"

Or Mame is just a pussy who can't take anything. He was not a victim. He overreacted.

flordiane's picture

memedyarov (2722) vs kornosov ( 2602) = 0-1 AEROFLOT 2009 ,21 moves?????

Wesly So (PHILIPPINES) (2610) vs NI HUA ( CHINA) (2710) = 1. 0- DRESDEN OLYMPIAD 2008 , 40 moves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Castro's picture

@Rob Brown
Your own words betray your opinion on Mikhail Golubev’s suggestion, and you do tghe same mistake as him. Rapid and blitz tournaments are out there!
"The higher quality of slower games will still be there in Candidates Matches and World Championships"
You're so right and the public interest for these, and for this kind of tournaments is so great that we have even much more of them, not just Candidates and WC!
Thank God!

val's picture

I beg your pardon, Bacchus.

flordiane's picture

@F3MDR, certainly no criminal will acccept his wrong doing, even swallow all evidence that will sent him to jail.

Castro's picture

@F3MDR
I agree with almost everything from your a) and b) supporting text.
Only related to b) (Mamedjarov didn't handle it properly) I'd point what seems a simple non-sense:
"If Mamedyarov feels uncomfortable about his opponent’s behaviour, it is not the opponent that causes Shakh’s behaviour – it is Shakh’s reaction to his opponent’s behaviour that is the underlying cause of Shakh’s behaviour."
This sentence is completely wrong, for two reasons. First, to give just an example, It would allow to blame almost every victim for every crime! And second, "his reaction is the cause of his behaviour" is good for a laugh ;-)
Then, I disagree with your item c): We don't know every detail of it, but we know, by the arbiters own words (and as you quoted) that he searched Kurnusov at THE END OF THE GAME. Apart from other posible failures, this one fact, alone, could prove some responsability of the arbiters.

Frits Fritschy's picture

For anyone concerned with Kurnosov's health in the freezing Moscow cold, check the FIDE handbook:

art. 12.5
Players are not allowed to leave the `playing venue` without permission from the arbiter. The playing venue is defined as the playing area, rest rooms, refreshment area, area set aside for smoking and other places as designated by the arbiter.
The player having the move is not allowed to leave the playing area without permission of the arbiter.

But as far as I know, Kurnosov didn't go outside. I don't know whether the stair well was designated as a smoking area by the arbiter.

Frits Fritschy's picture

And for anyone thinking it's all new, the following story (I refound it at www.koenig-plauen.de):
'Beim legend?§ren Turnier in Bled 1931 [...] kam es zu einem peinlichen Zwischenfall. Die Partie Kostic-Kashdan war in ein kompliziertes Endspiel ?ºbergegangen [...] Kostic jedoch zog sich f?ºr l?§ngere Zeit an einen Ort zur?ºck, den selbst gekr??nte H?§upter zu Fu?ü aufsuchen m?ºssen. Pl??tzlich breitete sich wie ein Lauffeuer im Turniersaal die Meldung aus, er sei dort ?ºberrascht worden, als er jene Kabine nicht zum vorgeschriebenen Zweck benutzte, sondern um mit Hilfe eines Taschenschachs seine laufende Partie zu analysieren! Die Turnierleitung scheute vor drakonischen Ma?ünahmen zur?ºck. Sie verwarnte den ?úbelt?§ter, die Partie wurde fortgesetzt und endete schlie?ülich mit Remis. Ein paar Runden sp?§ter jedoch kam es zu einem lustigen Nachspiel! Als Tartakower das n?§mliche ?ñrtchen aufsuchen wollte, fand er s?§mtliche Lokalit?§ten besetzt, r?ºttelte an den T?ºren und rief erbost: "Verflixt, ?ºberall Kostic!"'

I don't quote this story to raise any doubt about Kornosov, but just to show the a bit more relaxed attitude with which items like this were handled in the pre-computer forum age. Sometimes you feel here like you are at a medieval market place, everyone with a rotten tomato at hand to throw at the next alleged villein in the block.

me's picture

Like I said before, only one rule will prevent such things in the future - the players have to be at the table for the whole game.

Is that really so unheard of like some commentators say???
OK, leave out the "real" sports like football, basketball, tennis, etc. Lets focus on darts, poker, bowling, snooker, etc which are more similar to chess. Can a player be late for the start of the game in any of the mentioned sports? Hell no. Can a player leave at any time of the game. Hell no. Can the players terminate the game at any time they wish? Not really. Can others behave like primadonas and have no obligations to the press? NO. Now what makes you think that chess is so different from above mentioned games to deserve all those privileges???

Chess players are just a bunch of spoiled brats. They want to earn like professionals, but they don't want to behave like ones.

If they want that chess is just an amateurs sport then fine, there is nothing wrong with that. But they can only play for peanuts then, not for real money. For ammount of their professionalism chess players are over-payed.

So they have a choice, either they start to act like professionals (and the money will eventually come) or they remain at the amateur level. But then you can say goodbye to high prize funds and appearance fees.

Rob Brown's picture

GMs know lines in their favourite openings that are longer than 21 moves. It is entirely possible that Kurnosov knew the Rodshtein-Margalashvili game, had discovered the killer innovation and had been carrying it around in his head for some time before getting the opportunity to spring it on Mamedyarov.

Mikhail Golubev's suggestion is right on. One of the reasons that the mindless game of Poker is so popular and chess isn't is that it takes too damn long to play a game of chess at classical time controls. Rapid games would be much more exciting to many more people, especially with GM commentary. Yes, more mistakes will be made, but so what? Some of the most exciting games are full of mistakes. It's human to make them. The higher quality of slower games will still be there in Candidates Matches and World Championships, but big opens with rapid time controls would make for great spectator sport.

The saddest thing about this brouhaha is that young Kurnosov is poisoning himself with tobacco. Give it up Igor. It's one of the worst things to do to your body and it will take many years off your life

Castro's picture

Oh no! Again a lost post...I have to do some effort to write (one-two fingers writing only!) and sometimes the post simply doesn't show up!
WHY????

Castro's picture

Oh well, this time I won't insist. It was another story related to this theme, with another game to illustrate it, but now I will not even bother to try to post the 2nd part of it (unless someone told me and assured me a no-problem posting of it)!
Good night Ladies.

flordiane's picture

@jjoroen

any detitive story movie like CIA if you have seen it, the agent put ahead a pistol at the back of the exit door which he can pull during the escape together with the hostages.
this is just pros and cons suspecion, since they are russians and the game was held in Russia we can expext if conspiracy played that some devices was already installed ahead of the tournament schedule.

just to let our minds running.....

flordiane's picture

meredyamov (2722) vs kornosov ( 2602) = 0-1 AEROFLOT 2009

Wesly So (PHILIPPINES) (2610) vs NI HUA ( CHINA) (2710) = 1. 0- DRESDEN OLYMPIAD 2008

F3MDR's picture

There are several possible views on this situation, and my view of the situation is that
a) Kurnosov almost certainly did not use a chess computer during the game.
b) Mamedyarov did not handle the situation in the best possible way.
c) The arbiters made the right decisions in regard to the situation.

In my response, I will justify these conclusions that I have made, accepting that, not being a witness of the situation, it is impossible to avoid some bias.

Kurnosov almost certainly did not use a chess computer during the game. While there is not evidence to be 100% sure of this claim, I am highly confident that his play was equal to what would be expected of a 2600 player. It has been shown that Kurnosov’s moves 16-21 match Rybka’s choices, but in my view this is just a coincidence and not evidence that can be used to support Mamedyarov’s argument.

Firstly, the entire game may well have been preparation before the game, which would completely refute Mamedyarov’s claims. Furthermore, all of these moves were quite obvious to me (I am rated over 2250), again placing serious doubt in Mamedyarov’s decision to withdraw from the tournament, which appears to be more of an emotional than rational decision.

There could be several reasons for Kurnosov leaving the board several times. I will propose some: Having to smoke, needing to urinate frequently, nerves, necessity to stretch legs. All of these are entirely reasonable reasons to leave the board – although I agree with the person who says that Kurnosov would be wise to quit smoking. For this reason I think that Mamedyarov’s view that the opponent should not leave the board on almost every move cannot be properly substantiated.

Given that the weather in Russia is usually quite cold during the Aeroflot Open, it is entirely logical that Kursonov would carry his coat with him. Moreover, the declining of a draw offer against a higher-rated opponent is no evidence to support cheating either – especially if he could see that Mamedyarov was not handling the pressure of the game. Claiming that the opponent’s behaviour was unusual is in itself illogical, as shown by the evidence available during the game.

Additionally, Mamedyarov did not handle the situation in the best possible way. If Mamedyarov feels uncomfortable about his opponent’s behaviour, it is not the opponent that causes Shakh’s behaviour – it is Shakh’s reaction to his opponent’s behaviour that is the underlying cause of Shakh’s behaviour.

Mamedyarov made a mistake by offering a draw on move 14; as stated earlier he should have immediately alerted the arbiters of his suspicion; that way it can be checked and either validated or invalidated. It is interesting that Mamedyarov was surprised by his opponent’s refusal of a draw offer, since if Mamedyarov was showing signs of discomfort, stress or frustration, then it is entirely logical that Kurnosov would seek to take advantage of his opponent’s emotional state.

“It’s not a very convincing claim,” said chief arbiter Geurt Gijssen on the phone. “It’s all theory until 16…Qd6 and after that Black doesn’t make very strange moves. We checked the game with arbiters Fillipowicz and Vasiukov, but they didn’t think it was impossible to find the moves.” – I support this decision by the arbiters. In fact, Gijssen’s statement that it isn’t a very convincing claim appears to be a slight understatement.

“Before the end he asked me if the game could be removed from the website, and if we could keep an eye on his opponent. We tried to do that, but in a playing hall with 160 players that’s not easy. But I did notice that Kurnosov took his jacket with him, every time he left the board. After the game I asked him to show the contents of his pockets, but all that we found was a pack of sigarets, a lighter and a pen.”

This complaint by Mamedyarov is clearly an emotional rather than a rational reaction, as shown by the nature of the quoted complaint here. Asking a game to be removed from the website is unreasonable as it compromises the tournament. Gijssen asking Kurnosov to show the contents of his pockets was entirely reasonable, since if no evidence is found to suggest that Kurnosov may have cheated, then the case can be laid to rest.

Finally, Mamedyarov’s decision to withdraw from the tournament is a sad one. If there was significant evidence of his opinion, then this decision would have some justification, but without any reliable evidence then the withdrawal could easily be interpreted as a dummy-spit or a poorly considered emotional reaction, as some people here have either stated or inferred.

Personally I feel that Mamedyarov decided that he could not get his own way, and therefore decided to withdraw from the tournament in an attempt to encourage others to agree with his interpretation of the game. However, this is just speculation, of course, and there is not enough evidence to determine the exact reasoning for his withdrawal other than his suspicions and dissatisfaction with the arbiters’ decision.

Ganesh's picture

It is impossible to stop cheating in Chess. As a simple gesture will be sufficient to give a clue. In a well-known tactics book, while discussing a position from his own game, the author says he initially dint notice the tactic. But seeing his coach being restless and moving here and there, he sensed something is there in the position.
How can we stop this? :-)

VB's picture

No coaches in the playing hall!

Castro's picture

3. Those were the sad and alarming aspects of what we could expect, in the future. But nowadays we have already the other sad and problematic aspects: The lack of confidence, the abuses of acusing without proofs...
As I tried to show in my yesterday's "bedtime story", as something like Mamedjarov did, my IM opponent wouldn't believe me TWICE: First, when I told him I didn't cheat on him. And second, because my combination was (after all) wrong, when I told him that. He wouldn't believe me, because of the mistake being so subtle that none of us could see. After the computer discovered that endgame/domination refutation, we were able to understand it, but didn't see it in our 20+20 minutes, before.
So, we realy got our peacefull closure to the incident, but what if the combination was correct?? Can you see the problem? It would be what most likely is a Kurnusov-like situation.

Castro's picture

4. The future may even bring chips and/or receivers or whole tiny computers implanted on brains. Can your imagination accept that and it's consequences?
5. Another tipe of opinion that I think does deserve a comment is that Mamedjarov didn't do right. As far as we know, during the game he DID right: Transmit his suspicions to the arbiters. Of course he didn't remain calm after that, played bad moves and didn't take the loss any well. The veiled acusation he then did is not acceptable, because it lacked proofs, and so maybe he should be punished (as Kurnusov complains or not!).
6. We remain without knowing the posible responsability of the arbiters. If they really just took that measures, and only when the game was over, maybe they are to have been part of problem too.

Castro's picture

7. I had once another acusation of cheating online, against a computer (rated circa 2700 elo on that site, when I had something like 2200 myself). That acuser was really bad intentioned, it was a game he knew I COULN'T have cheated. He just made a (stupid) experimental move out of the opening and lost quikly. But out of sour grapes, he reported on me, and an admin even tagged me as a computer for some days! He said that a series of moves (after the opponent's mistake, of course) were the first choices of some program -- not Fritz, not Rybka, another strong program from some 5 years ago -- and that I couldn't win against 2700 as I had some losses against some 1900s too... I had to PROVE MY INOCENCE!! I emailed them lots of previous games of me in that variation, and lots of wins against strong opponents, and only after that they put me back as a regular player.

Castro's picture

I read the various opinions here. Always in personal respect, but I think some of them don't even deserve a comment.
1. Any atempt to forbid players to get up from the table after playing his move, walking or going to a bathroom or a smoking area seem completely unacceptable to me. And above all unnecessary.
Yes, the future will bring more and more problems of this kind, but only IF one could not adress them, and if those problems are not to be adressable with the players freedom to walk in those kinds of tournament areas, I say they are not going to be adressable at all, mainly because the new technologies for cheating will work even for players sitting at the tables. If they aren't already working!

2. I don't think that this concrete case has any cheating at all (other then Mamedjarov's psychology maybe cheating himself), but the truth is we don't know for sure!
Someone here told something about the unconsistence of Kurnusov needing to take the jacket in order to cheat, because it would only be needed for something big as a Pocket Fritz, which doesn't run Rybka, whereas small receivers exist... But it could be precisely the cheating method! The jacket (or even the absenses from the table!) could be a decoy: things to diverte atention and things which always would, in the end, show themselves to be inocent.

Mikhail Golubev's picture

2steven >>I cannot believe my eyes : you want to replace classical chess by rapid chess, because cheating would be more difficult.<<
ALSO because of the cheating problem, but mainly because the classical chess is extremely boring to watch in progress for (the many of) spectators.

Mikhail Golubev's picture

P.S. Sorry for the mess, some tech. problem: a part om my posting was eaten twice.

Mikhail Golubev's picture

2steven >>I cannot believe my eyes : you want to replace classical chess by rapid chess, because cheating would be more difficult.<>Shall we stop the Olympic Games because of the existence of cases of doping..???<<
This is a hard question. :-) Personally I am not really interested in Olympic Games, most what I hear about them is these endless doping scandals and, also, a matter who took more medals overall: US, China or Russia. (I did not understand who was the overall winner last time though.) But it does not disturb me that much. So, most seriously: I would let other people to decide.

gogomil's picture

I read on the russian chess site that he was in the lobby smoking, and he had his cigarets and lighter in the jacket . Even if Shah could have a point in his accusations they are made not in the correct way anyway. And first choice by Rybka was 16... N takes b2, not Qd6 ?? And since Shah himself stated that they played 11 fast moves - how can thay play fast if Igor is in the lobby after every move. It looks like sour grapes , pity for Mamediarov. And it cant not refleckt Kurnosovs play- he drew in 12 today

steven's picture

Me :

In physical sports, there is much less need for "peeing" because of the sweating and the dehydration.
You cannot compare chess with physical sports.
In any case, you simply cannot forbid someone to go the toilet, even if he needs to go 3 times within the same hour.
It is really not necessary to turn a chess tournament into a school or worse, a prison.

Mikhail Golubev's picture

2steven
>>I cannot believe my eyes : you want to replace classical chess by rapid chess, because cheating would be more difficult.<>Shall we stop the Olympic Games because of the existence of cases of doping..???<<

This is a hard question. :-) Personally I am not really interested in Olympic Games in the present form, most what I hear about them is these endless doping scandals and, also, a matter who took more medals and won overall: US, China or Russia. (I did not understand who was the overall winner last time though.) But it does not disturb me that much. So, most seriously: I would let other people to decide.

Jeroen's picture

@ Flordiane: so then why take his jacket with him and leaving the playing hall for the toilets, if according to you Kurnosov used a more modern way to get his moves? Wouldn't it be easier to just walk around if he had some device hided in his ear?

Going to the toilets taking a jacket suggests pocket PC or mobile phone, no spectacular modern transmitting method.

If Mamedyarov was so sure about his suspicion, he should have asked right away, had the toilet inspected as well as the jacket.

Somehow this whole affair reminds me a bit of cycling these days: if a cyclist suddenly has a very good race, everybody starts suspecting him of using doping.

Mike's picture

@Golubev: I don't believe the way to fix something illegal is to destroy the object of a millennium old Sport/Art. Shall we stop the Olympic Games because of the existence of cases of doping..??? No!! The right way is to implement competently whatever necessary comprehensive rules and its supervision...

me's picture

@steven

What about other sportlers "rights"? In which sport can they leave the playing field whenever they like and how often they like?

Chess players need to grow up and act more professional. It's not unheard of that we fans and the sponsors want to see them at the board doing their job.

steven's picture

Mikhail Golubev,

I cannot believe my eyes : you want to replace classical chess by rapid chess, because cheating would be more difficult.
This will lead to a a loss of quality in a lot of chess games, more blunders,...
And what about the numerous players who prefer classical time control chess?
Rapid and classical chess should coexist , there should be something for everyone.

steven's picture

Flordiane,

Your thinking seems to be really idiotic, with your nonsense about russian conspiracies.

VB's picture

Somehow I support Memedyarov. I don't think is OK players to the play their games out of the toilet or elsewhere outside the chess hall.

flordiane's picture

i request the aeroflot chess organizer to take a look at cctv record, how many times kornosov went to toilet and how many times he brouhgt his coat.

flordiane's picture

sometimes hometown favoritism...works.....

Pages

Latest articles