Reports | January 16, 2012 20:32

Tata R3: Carlsen beats Aronian, takes over the lead

Tata R3: Carlsen beats Aronian, takes over the lead

Magnus Carlsen is the new leader at the 74th Tata Steel Chess Tournament in Wijk aan Zee, The Netherlands. The Norwegian defeated Levon Aronian on Monday. Other victories in the A group went to Sergey Karjakin and Teimour Radjabov, who won against Anish Giri and David Navara respectively. Pentala Harikrishna and Maxim Turov maintained their lead in the B and C groups.

Carlsen won the important game between the two highest rated participants

Event Tata Steel Chess Tournament | PGN Group A, Group B, Group C via TWIC
Dates January 13th-29th, 2012
Location Wijk aan Zee, The Netherlands
System 3 GM groups with 14 players-player double round robin
Players
A group
Carlsen, Aronian, Radjabov, Topalov, Karjakin, Ivanchuk, Gashimov, Nakamura, Gelfand, Caruana, Kamsky, Giri, Navara, Van Wely
Players
B group
Bruzon, Potkin, Motylev, Tiviakov, Harikrishna, Ernst, L'Ami, Reinderman, Timman, Nyzhnik, Lahno, Vocaturo, Harika, Cmilyte
Players
C group
Sadler, Turov, Adhiban, Tikkanen, Grover, Brandenburg, Danielian, Paehtz, Sachdev, Hopman, Ootes, Haast, Schut, Goudriaan
Rate of play 100 minutes for 40 moves, followed by 50 minutes for 20 moves, then 15 minutes for the remaining moves with 30 seconds cumulative increment for each move starting from the first move.

A bit surprisingly, the press room was very quiet on this first week day of the tournament. Some journalists, who had visited the tournament in the first weekend, were already gone - will they return later? Others - in fact most - probably decided to come by during the second half, when everything will be decided. And so, on the day when world number one Magnus Carlsen faced tournament leader Levon Aronian, almost nobody noticed, well, at least not in Wijk aan Zee! (By the way, this is also the reason why there hasn't been one of those famous press-conferences-with-demo-board yet.)

But of course, everyone noticed. Obviously, everyone is following the games at the official website. Kudos to the organizers for picking up something that was done before by the Russian Chess Federation: Pascal Pflaum's applet for streaming the live games. The German programmer created this splendid applet for the Schachbundesliga two years ago, and at some point started licensing his software to other organizations. It was already used during e.g. last year's FIDE World Cup, and on the website WhyChess (which saw its funding terminated recently).

And so the tens of thousands of chess fans enjoyed online yet another great game by Magnus Carlsen, who slowly outplayed Levon Aronian, then let a big advantage almost slip away but eventually won a BN vs R (and only a few pawns) ending.

I was completely winning of course, then I tried to find the most accurate way and evidently I didn't. Probably it was winning til the end, but if so it was only by luck. A win is a win.

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As Jan Timman explained to us last week during our interview, one of the few weakness left in Anish Giri's play is that he can be overoptimistic. It looks like this was the case also in the third round, when the Dutchman couldn't resist the anti-positional 20...f5, a move condemned by his opponent Sergey Karjakin after the game. The Moscovite added:

Finally of course I'm happy. It was difficult to recover but I managed to play a more or less good game today. It wasn't an easy win. 

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The third winner of the day was Teimour Radjabov, who saw his opponent going wrong already in the opening. Just when David Navara seemed to be putting up a stubborn defence, the Czech dropped a full knight.

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In the B group local heros Erwin l'Ami, Jan Timman and Sergey Tiviakov won. Timman must have enjoyed the final part of his game against Ilya Nyzhnyk.

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Jan Timman still attracting lots of attention at the start of the round

The 250-euro Piet Zwart Prize was awarded to Lithuania’s Viktorija Cmylite for her victory against Holland’s Sipke Ernst.

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In the C-group this prize is just 100 euros, and in the third round two players had to split the money: Elisabeth Paehtz and Matthew Sadler. Their game, a Modern Defence, was indeed spectacular:

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Daily video by the organizers

Games group A, round 3

 
 


Tata Steel 2012 | Grandmaster Group A | Pairings

Round 1 14.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 2 15.01.12 13.30 CET
Navara ½-½ Topalov   Topalov ½-½ Van Wely
Gelfand 0-1 Giri   Gashimov ½-½ Kamsky
Radjabov ½-½ Caruana   Ivanchuk ½-½ Carlsen
Karjakin 0-1 Aronian   Aronian 1-0 Nakamura
Nakamura ½-½ Ivanchuk   Caruana 1-0 Karjakin
Carlsen 1-0 Gashimov   Giri ½-½ Radjabov
Kamsky ½-½ Van Wely   Navara ½-½ Gelfand
Round 3 16.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 4 17.01.12 13.30 CET
Gelfand ½-½ Topalov   Topalov - Gashimov
Radjabov 1-0 Navara   Ivanchuk - Van Wely
Karjakin 1-0 Giri   Aronian - Kamsky
Nakamura ½-½ Caruana   Caruana - Carlsen
Carlsen 1-0 Aronian   Giri - Nakamura
Kamsky ½-½ Ivanchuk   Navara - Karjakin
Van Wely ½-½ Gashimov   Gelfand - Radjabov
Round 5 19.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 6 20.01.12 13.30 CET
Radjabov - Topalov   Topalov - Ivanchuk
Karjakin - Gelfand   Aronian - Gashimov
Nakamura - Navara   Caruana - Van Wely
Carlsen - Giri   Giri - Kamsky
Kamsky - Caruana   Navara - Carlsen
Van Wely - Aronian   Gelfand - Nakamura
Gashimov - Ivanchuk   Radjabov - Karjakin
Round 7 21.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 8 22.01.12 13.30 CET
Karjakin - Topalov   Topalov - Aronian
Nakamura - Radjabov   Caruana - Ivanchuk
Carlsen - Gelfand   Giri - Gashimov
Kamsky - Navara   Navara - Van Wely
Van Wely - Giri   Gelfand - Kamsky
Gashimov - Caruana   Radjabov - Carlsen
Ivanchuk - Aronian   Karjakin - Nakamura
Round 9 24.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 10 25.01.12 13.30 CET
Nakamura - Topalov   Topalov - Caruana
Carlsen - Karjakin   Giri - Aronian
Kamsky - Radjabov   Navara - Ivanchuk
Van Wely - Gelfand   Gelfand - Gashimov
Gashimov - Navara   Radjabov - Van Wely
Ivanchuk - Giri   Karjakin - Kamsky
Aronian - Caruana   Nakamura - Carlsen
Round 11 27.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 12 28.01.12 13.30 CET
Carlsen - Topalov   Topalov - Giri
Kamsky - Nakamura   Navara - Caruana
Van Wely - Karjakin   Gelfand - Aronian
Gashimov - Radjabov   Radjabov - Ivanchuk
Ivanchuk - Gelfand   Karjakin - Gashimov
Aronian - Navara   Nakamura - Van Wely
Caruana - Giri   Carlsen - Kamsky
Round 13 29.01.12 12.00 CET        
Kamsky - Topalov        
Van Wely - Carlsen        
Gashimov - Nakamura        
Ivanchuk - Karjakin        
Aronian - Radjabov        
Caruana - Gelfand        
Giri - Navara        

Tata Steel 2012 | Grandmaster Group A | Round 3 standings

 

Games group B, round 3

 
 


Tata Steel 2012 | Grandmaster Group B | Pairings

Round 1 14.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 2 15.01.12 13.30 CET
Reinderman ½-½ Motylev   Motylev ½-½ Potkin
Bruzon 0-1 Harikrishna   Tiviakov 1-0 Timman
Lahno 1-0 Ernst   Nyzhnyk ½-½ l'Ami
Harika ½-½ Vocaturo   Vocaturo 1-0 Cmilyte
Cmilyte 0-1 Nyzhnyk   Ernst ½-½ Harika
l'Ami 1-0 Tiviakov   Harikrishna 1-0 Lahno
Timman ½-½ Potkin   Reinderman ½-½ Bruzon
Round 3 16.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 4 17.01.12 13.30 CET
Bruzon ½-½ Motylev   Motylev - Tiviakov
Lahno ½-½ Reinderman   Nyzhnyk - Potkin
Harika 0-1 Harikrishna   Vocaturo - Timman
Cmilyte 1-0 Ernst   Ernst - l'Ami
l'Ami 1-0 Vocaturo   Harikrishna - Cmilyte
Timman 1-0 Nyzhnyk   Reinderman - Harika
Potkin 0-1 Tiviakov   Bruzon - Lahno
Round 5 19.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 6 20.01.12 13.30 CET
Lahno - Motylev   Motylev - Nyzhnyk
Harika - Bruzon   Vocaturo - Tiviakov
Cmilyte - Reinderman   Ernst - Potkin
l'Ami - Harikrishna   Harikrishna - Timman
Timman - Ernst   Reinderman - l'Ami
Potkin - Vocaturo   Bruzon - Cmilyte
Tiviakov - Nyzhnyk   Lahno - Harika
Round 7 21.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 8 22.01.12 13.30 CET
Harika - Motylev   Motylev - Vocaturo
Cmilyte - Lahno   Ernst - Nyzhnyk
l'Ami - Bruzon   Harikrishna - Tiviakov
Timman - Reinderman   Reinderman - Potkin
Potkin - Harikrishna   Bruzon - Timman
Tiviakov - Ernst   Lahno - l'Ami
Nyzhnyk - Vocaturo   Harika - Cmilyte
Round 9 24.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 10 25.01.12 13.30 CET
Cmilyte - Motylev   Motylev - Ernst
l'Ami - Harika   Harikrishna - Vocaturo
Timman - Lahno   Reinderman - Nyzhnyk
Potkin - Bruzon   Bruzon - Tiviakov
Tiviakov - Reinderman   Lahno - Potkin
Nyzhnyk - Harikrishna   Harika - Timman
Vocaturo - Ernst   Cmilyte - l'Ami
Round 11 27.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 12 28.01.12 13.30 CET
l'Ami - Motylev   Motylev - Harikrishna
Timman - Cmilyte   Reinderman - Ernst
Potkin - Harika   Bruzon - Vocaturo
Tiviakov - Lahno   Lahno - Nyzhnyk
Nyzhnyk - Bruzon   Harika - Tiviakov
Vocaturo - Reinderman   Cmilyte - Potkin
Ernst - Harikrishna   l'Ami - Timman
Round 13 29.01.12 12.00 CET        
Timman - Motylev        
Potkin - l'Ami        
Tiviakov - Cmilyte        
Nyzhnyk - Harika        
Vocaturo - Lahno        
Ernst - Bruzon        
Harikrishna - Reinderman        

Tata Steel 2012 | Grandmaster Group B | Round 3 standings

 

Games group C, round 3

 
 


Tata Steel 2012 | Grandmaster Group C | Pairings

Round 1 14.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 2 15.01.12 13.30 CET
Sadler 1-0 Hopman   Hopman 0-1 Turov
Tania ½-½ Grover   Schut ½-½ Danielian
Paehtz 0-1 Tikkanen   Haast ½-½ Goudriaan
Brandenburg ½-½ Ootes   Ootes ½-½ Adhiban
Adhiban 1-0 Haast   Tikkanen ½-½ Brandenburg
Goudriaan 1-0 Schut   Grover 1-0 Paehtz
Danielian 0-1 Turov   Sadler ½-½ Tania
Round 3 16.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 4 17.01.12 13.30 CET
Tania ½-½ Hopman   Hopman - Schut
Paehtz ½-½ Sadler   Haast - Turov
Brandenburg ½-½ Grover   Ootes - Danielian
Adhiban ½-½ Tikkanen   Tikkanen - Goudriaan
Goudriaan 1-0 Ootes   Grover - Adhiban
Danielian ½-½ Haast   Sadler - Brandenburg
Turov 1-0 Schut   Tania - Paehtz
Round 5 19.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 6 20.01.12 13.30 CET
Paehtz - Hopman   Hopman - Haast
Brandenburg - Tania   Ootes - Schut
Adhiban - Sadler   Tikkanen - Turov
Goudriaan - Grover   Grover - Danielian
Danielian - Tikkanen   Sadler - Goudriaan
Turov - Ootes   Tania - Adhiban
Schut - Haast   Paehtz - Brandenburg
Round 7 21.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 8 22.01.12 13.30 CET
Brandenburg - Hopman   Hopman - Ootes
Adhiban - Paehtz   Tikkanen - Haast
Goudriaan - Tania   Grover - Schut
Danielian - Sadler   Sadler - Turov
Turov - Grover   Tania - Danielian
Schut - Tikkanen   Paehtz - Goudriaan
Haast - Ootes   Brandenburg - Adhiban
Round 9 24.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 10 25.01.12 13.30 CET
Adhiban - Hopman   Hopman - Tikkanen
Goudriaan - Brandenburg   Grover - Ootes
Danielian - Paehtz   Sadler - Haast
Turov - Tania   Tania - Schut
Schut - Sadler   Paehtz - Turov
Haast - Grover   Brandenburg - Danielian
Ootes - Tikkanen   Adhiban - Goudriaan
Round 11 27.01.12 13.30 CET   Round 12 28.01.12 13.30 CET
Goudriaan - Hopman   Hopman - Grover
Danielian - Adhiban   Sadler - Tikkanen
Turov - Brandenburg   Tania - Ootes
Schut - Paehtz   Paehtz - Haast
Haast - Tania   Brandenburg - Schut
Ootes - Sadler   Adhiban - Turov
Tikkanen - Grover   Goudriaan - Danielian
Round 13 29.01.12 12.00 CET        
Danielian - Hopman        
Turov - Goudriaan        
Schut - Adhiban        
Haast - Brandenburg        
Ootes - Paehtz        
Tikkanen - Tania        
Grover - Sadler        

Tata Steel 2012 | Grandmaster Group C | Round 3 standings

 

After the round, Veselin Topalov could be found in the bar of the venue, analyzing with his fresh new second, GM Romain Edouard from France

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Comments

brabo's picture

Please read once http://chessvibes.com/node/6364.
That article completely contradicts your statement of serious inflation and breaking the 2851 is no big thing.

There is a reason why it takes already 12 years and somebody stronger than worldclassplayers as Anand and Kramnik despite the so called inflation to break this record.

S3's picture

Saying it is easy or no big thing is crazy. But comparing current ratings with long past records is crazy as well. It's the games that should be compared and they paint a pretty clear picture.
Just try to imagine Kasparov and Karpov playing a game as miserable as that of Carlsen and Aronian today.

rogge's picture

This patzer disagrees with our local master

https://twitter.com/#!/Kasparov63

S3's picture

lol, few people bite the hand that feeds, and we all know with whom he worked.

Jarvis's picture

Lol @ poor, miserable S3, so utterly pwned!

S3's picture

Thanks for your sympathy. But it's pretty clear Kasparov is a fanboy. He only follows (and only compliments) Carlsens games, according to that twitter account.
Prolly some financial or prestigious gain in it for him too I guess, the Carlsens have always been good at mantaining these kinds of relationships and increasing the fanbase.

columbo's picture

Kasparov a FAN BOY ?!??!?! you have a serious problem S3, or many, check that out real quick !

S3's picture

Defenitely fanboy, but maybe there is something in it for him too. All his tweets are in Russian except for one english tweet with every Carlsen win. And that's okay, but things are not true just because some strong fanboy says so.

rogge's picture

>things are not true just because some strong fanboy says so

Things are not true just because some weak basher/hater says so.

Hernán Ruiz's picture

You must be a GM.You keep saying " a miserable game" about Carlsen _ Aronian.It was a great game.I think you believe you are an interesting person saying those things.But in
fact, those are stupid comments.Send your fantastic analysis to prove your genius.

Anand's picture

I should give him the crown for free

Bobby Fiske's picture

-Maybe the most impressive about Magnus play today was how well he played the end game.

I wonder how early he thought this endgame as won?
-It was initiated by the brilliant 38. Bc1. This move, again, he must have seen allready at 35.Nf4.

So, the win was practically* forced, from move 35. Now, that is impressive!

*I say "practically" since there might have occured a couple of drawing lines in the endgame, indicated by computers, but overseen by both players.

Thomas Richter's picture

Does it matter if, and when Carlsen thought or knew that the endgame is winning? Maybe he just knew that he has an advantage and good practical winning chances (Aronian may have thought the same at this stage, i.e. "white is better, but there is no need yet to resign").

This is enough against any human player, even if - as you suggest at the end - an engine may have held a draw with black.

BTW 35.Nf4 seems an obvious move in this position (even if he hasn't yet seen 38.Bc1), and 38.Bc1, while spectacular, may not be that hard to find - as the next moves until the ending B+N against rook are all forced.

H. Nakamura's picture

I tottaly suck man i think im gonnna quit chess....ill just watch Carlsen games cause they are instructive to me...

The Player's picture

Vishy is good. Gelfand is ok. But the two best chessplayers in the world are Carlsen and Aronian. Period!

Remco G's picture

When Kramnik was #1 on the rating list and had beaten Kasparov in the match, people said he wasn't really the world champion because Kasparov had left FIDE, and Kramnik didn't have to qualify for the match through candidates matches.

Now we do have an undisputed world champion and a challenger who has beaten all comers in the candidates matches. But some people will now ignore that and continue to look at the rating lists.

Anand is the real world champion. The winner of Anand-Gelfand will be the real world champion. The rating list means nothing for the world championship.

redivivo's picture

"a challenger who has beaten all comers in the candidates matches"

or rather a challenger who has beaten Mamedyarov, Kamsky and Grischuk in minimatches.

S3's picture

And Polgar, Ponomariov and so on and so on. Must be difficult if you forget everything older than 1 year redivivo!

redivivo's picture

That wasn't candidates matches though but a two-game "match" World Cup. It sounds more impressive to say that Gelfand took on all comers in candidates matches than to describe the "matches" and opponents. But Gelfand did nothing wrong, I'd rather be critical of FIDE for changing what was a good cycle into the usual knockout where players far from the top often win (like Khalifman, Kasimdzhanov and Gelfand).

S3's picture

Once again you are wrong. Ponomariov was >2 games f.i. Anyway, you were intentionally leaving an entire qualification tournament out of your presentation, showing the weakness of your argument in the process.

Gelfand won 2 knockouts after each other, I do believe that any other player would have a hard time doing that. In fact, some were too scared to even play any of them. Gelfy adapts to the system, shows his versatility in chess (remember his his high ranking in the double rr wch tournament!).

redivivo's picture

"Once again you are wrong. Ponomariov was >2 games f.i. Anyway, you were intentionally leaving an entire qualification tournament out of your presentation"

The World Cup consisted of 128 "matches" and 127 of them were two games long, so I wouldn't say it's wrong to refer to the event as a two-game knockout. Apart from that I answered the statement about Gelfand "beating all comers in candidates matches" by saying that he only won three candidates "matches", against Mamedyarov, Kamsky and Grischuk. If sequential minimatch knockouts even count as matches. I think few remember the "matches" Gelfand has lost against Bareev, Khalifman, Dreev, Adams (twice), Shirov, Anand (twice), Svidler and Grischuk. Such minimatches are just meaningless for any serious purpose.

Anonymous's picture

People speaking of 'inflated ratings' are quite shallow, as if what Magnus Carlsen performs is childs play.. theory has become so common and everybody checks and prepares their lines heavily with engines, margins are becoming smaller every year.. and still being able to outperform everyone year after year is just incredible. Kasparov was no doubt the greatest ever in his prime, but please do not downplay Magnus' performance, which is stellar.

redivivo's picture

Yes, he's just 21 and has won a huge amount of top tournaments already and is the highest rated player in the world with an unusually big margin. Kasparov was the greatest chess player ever but still "only" 2804 when he won his last tournament in 2005, so getting close to 2850 isn't easy.

Parkov's picture

I wonder will Anish Giri recieve the same plaudits when he's 2800+ in 2-3 years, or Nyzhnyk perhaps a few years down the line. Or will it be only then the fanboys start to cry "inflation!"?

mathijs's picture

youre completely missing the point. its not just rating, but the number of games and tournaments won as well. it remains to be seen if giri, nyzhnyk or any talent fpr that matter will achieve such dominance. but then again, you previously implied the top players were all better 10-15yrs ago and chess has gotten 'weaker', so maybe you are just ignorant

grewia's picture

Not related to the tourney... Does anyone know what Aronian's first game of 2012 was from?

Thomas Richter's picture

Aronian's "first game of 2012" was his win against Fressinet in the German Bundesliga on 16 October 2011 (but this competition is always FIDE-rated 'en bloc' at the end of the season). I knew, but you or anyone else can find out by clicking on the magnifying glass at http://www.2700chess.com .

grewia's picture

Aye! Thanks for the brilliant resource, Mr. Richter.

calvin amari's picture

A great battle between numbers one and two, Magnus and Levon, both of whom are in excellent form. The game seems somewhat characteristic as well, with Levon finding ways to make matters wildly complex - a strategy that typically plays to his advantage (witness, for example, his first wins in rounds one and two). But while the position surely offered fertile ground for the Great Trickster, he was able to pull nothing over on Magnus. In this regard I do not think we could have expected a similar result against any other opponent facing Levon in the same position. Magnus's masterful endgame surely was characteristic as well. Perhaps the only thing that was suprising was Magnus's edge out of the opening. That simply does not happen often enough with Magnus, although his other strengths obviously compensate more often than not.

Kudos to both players for avoiding the type of quiet game that so often stems from that wary mutual respect that top seeds afford each other (e.g., virtually all Magnus's recent games against Vishy) and going toe to toe in a knock down, drag out fight.

I for one would expect a far, far greater spectacle from a Carlson/Aronian match than I would from the upcoming Anand/Gelfand match. If one asked which alternative would represent the very best chess of today, the answer is all too clear.

Anonymous's picture

Well spoken, Calvin Amari! (As usual).

Thomas Richter's picture

As pointed out above by Daaim Shabazz (who apparently read the tournament homepage and/or TWIC) Carlsen himself was far less lyric about the game than some of his fans. While S3 is provocative and over the top, I wonder if the game under discussion would receive nearly as much attention and praise if it had been played between, say, Gashimov and van Wely or between two players of the B or C group.

An experiment might be if the Chessvibes article contained only one game viewer for the three groups, and games in random order simply marked #1-39. Which games would then get most attention?? This obviously won't work as many readers check other sources, including the live transmission. If it did work "game #22" between Carlsen and Aronian might not really be singled out - IMHO it is more remarkable for its sportive importance than for what actually happened on the board. In earlier rounds, Aronian's wins against Karjakin and Nakamura might still have been singled out!?

Anthony Migchels's picture

I think this misses the point.

Chess is not beautiful when flawless for 80 moves.

It is beautiful because it is a mental boxing match.

It is too complicated to play flawless, what matters is who is showing the most versatile arsenal and staying power.

Games like Carlsen-Aronian are great fights between two great masters, that's what counts.

They themselves are unable to completely fathom the complications. But they don't fear entering them if their gut tells them to go for it. They are not 'in control'.

They want to be, but the opponent does not allow it, and that's why a clash between such titans is often messy and imperfect.

S3's picture

Ah now I get it. The games are great because the players are great!

To be serious: yesterday's game was one sided, white got a big practical advantage out of the opening, Aronian played very slow and quite weak, and after that Carlsen was sloppy in converting his advantage when Aronian finally started playing. Fortunately the advantage was big enough and the win was still ensured.

I much prefer a game like the recent Giri-Vitiugov for example-the game got far less attention but was much, much more interesting.

redivivo's picture

"As pointed out above by Daaim Shabazz (who apparently read the tournament homepage and/or TWIC) Carlsen himself was far less lyric about the game than some of his fans. While S3 is provocative and over the top, I wonder if the game under discussion would receive nearly as much attention and praise if it had been played between, say, Gashimov and van Wely or between two players of the B or C group"

What I wonder is if certain people would find anything Carlsen ever does over the board worthy of any admiration whatsoever. Yes, he could have won faster, but he played a very strong opponent in excellent shape. Yes, Carlsen was critical of himself for taking too much time to win a completely winning position, but it's never easy to finish a player like Aronian off.

S3's picture

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1569983

and I'll even throw in a Carlsen win for your pleasure;

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1565704

Those are truly good games (especially the first).

Anonymous's picture

Thats THE WHOLE POINT, the game was played by Magnus and Aronian. Players worse than Aronian would have crumbled much sooner than how long the game lasted. Players worse than Carlsen would probably have drawn against Aronian. I dont think lower rated players would have played this game out the way it WAS played out.
So it obviously is pointless to hypothetically say that the game would have gotten lower attention if lower rated players were involved.
Then you might as well say that the Corus 1999 game with Kasparov beating Topalov wouldnt have received as much attention if it were played in an amateur game of club level players. Which is true- but that's missing the point ;)

Anonymous's picture

Too much hype for a mediocre game. If these are the two top players of our era, then chess has gone backwards, the level of play of Kasparov and Karpov was far superior than the level of play of these two kids.

Wallace's picture

I wonder... It is now more obvious because of a very strong computer showing live if somebody plays a lesser move. Throw those 'perfect' games of you in there and they too have flaws.

It was an interesting game, full of tension and played on a very high level. The 'old' masters would have been proud to play like this

Anonymous's picture

There is no way Kasparov would ever envy sb else's game, let alone Carlsen's. He is too egosit to do sth like this, and besides, he doesn't have to, his level of play was better than MC's current level of play.

midi900's picture

Are there no ChessVibes videos this time?

The Devil's picture

The videos aren't made by Chessvibes. Go to the actual tournament site if you want to see the videos.

LM Andersson's picture
Bertje ENKELHAAR's picture

Even grandmasters didnt manage to mate with B and N in the past. I dont know the times but i would really liked to c MC sweat a little, although i doubt he woudl fail.

Oh and the whole MC discussion is such a waste of time. We all know he is the best player ever, at least he will be easy. Serious dont even try to disagree

Manu's picture

If Carlsen wins this tournament more or less convincingly he will be World Champion to my eyes , at least in tournament play...
Caruana and Giri showing interesting chess too , methinks.

Kullusingh's picture

What a bad performance from Giri! Is this the challenge presented to Carlsen and Aronian?

Excalibur's picture

Im a 1000 percent would have mated N+B. Even I can do it.

Webbimio's picture

I don't even know an FM game in which, with more than 5 minutes, the player with N and B didn't win. It's really, really, really easy. Don't compare it to other endings (like Q vs R, for example, or R and B vs R) in which there are many tricks and subtle ideas. Here it's all very simple.

Anthony Migchels's picture

I agree. I've known many grandmasters and I remember for instance Friso Nijboer mating someone in blitzgame with B+K.

He could have done it after two joints and half a bottle of whiskey and while sleeping.

brabo's picture

I've seen last year an FM with plenty of time on the clock not being able to win N and B. I was shocked but I know that the FM isn't an isolated case.
Today few players are still studying properly endgames which isn't really surprising with the fast timecontrols used in most tournaments.

Harry's picture

When will the first wooden board video appear? Can't wait much longer!! The board is there, I saw it!

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