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		<title>By: misja</title>
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		<dc:creator>misja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the game viewer Vallejo&#039;s 32... a4 is given as dubious. That is right but the incorrect plan of running with the a-pawn already started with 31... a5?!

After a series of relatively obvious moves for black (starting with 26...Nxb2) Topalov&#039;s clever 31.Kh2 basically asked black: &quot;what ya gonna do?&quot; Lacking time to find and calculate a better move (31...Qb4, Re8, Qb2, Kc7...) Vallejo played the &#039;simple plan of just running with the a-pawn&#039; thereby giving away the win.

Vallejo&#039;s last mistake 38...Bc5?? was of course heartbreaking but even if he had found the correct 38... Kc7 Topalov would have probably not have gone for the perpetual, but complicated matters again with 39.Nc3 and still flagged Vallejo.

Which leads me to this strange thought. Suppose Vallejo had played 38... Kc7 and Topalov had wanted to &#039;give&#039; his friend the draw, how could he have accomplished that? If he had just offered it, he probably still would have flagged Vallejo. Perhaps with these weird Sofia rules he could have stopped the clock and asked the arbiter if he would be allowed to offer a draw?? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the game viewer Vallejo&#8217;s 32&#8230; a4 is given as dubious. That is right but the incorrect plan of running with the a-pawn already started with 31&#8230; a5?!</p>
<p>After a series of relatively obvious moves for black (starting with 26&#8230;Nxb2) Topalov&#8217;s clever 31.Kh2 basically asked black: &#8220;what ya gonna do?&#8221; Lacking time to find and calculate a better move (31&#8230;Qb4, Re8, Qb2, Kc7&#8230;) Vallejo played the &#8217;simple plan of just running with the a-pawn&#8217; thereby giving away the win.</p>
<p>Vallejo&#8217;s last mistake 38&#8230;Bc5?? was of course heartbreaking but even if he had found the correct 38&#8230; Kc7 Topalov would have probably not have gone for the perpetual, but complicated matters again with 39.Nc3 and still flagged Vallejo.</p>
<p>Which leads me to this strange thought. Suppose Vallejo had played 38&#8230; Kc7 and Topalov had wanted to &#8216;give&#8217; his friend the draw, how could he have accomplished that? If he had just offered it, he probably still would have flagged Vallejo. Perhaps with these weird Sofia rules he could have stopped the clock and asked the arbiter if he would be allowed to offer a draw?? <img src='http://www.chessvibes.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: misja</title>
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		<dc:creator>misja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nemozyne: &quot;And Vallejo was not in time trouble when he incomprehensibly chose to not play 24… 0-0-0 – which would have solved a lot of his subsequent problems, while providing more firepower.&quot;

Not so incomprehensible I think. With 22.Ne2 and 24.Qe3 Topalov attacked the black pawn on e5. I assume that Vallejo considered 24...0-0-0 but saw that after 25.Rxf5 Bxf5 26.Bxe5 he would lose the e5 pawn and was not sure how to evaluate the position (probably still a bit better for black).

Next I assume that Vallejo found 24... Na4 as a way to get rid of one of the attackers of e5. Vallejo may have missed that the queen could also go 25.Qh6, but perhaps he did see it and accurately assessed that black would still be a bit better after 25... Kd7, and even won again after Topalov&#039;s 26.Rxf5?!

What Vallejo probably did not see (or he would have played it) was the best move to counter Topalov&#039;s attack on e5: 24...Qd6! The point is that after 25.Rxf5 Bxf5 26.Bxe5? black would win with the beautiful 26...Nc4!

Of course my engine found the last variant for me. I can only admire the very brave play from both Topalov and Vallejo. But perhaps the above explains the &quot;incomprehensible&quot; 24...0-0-0. These are human players and especially in time trouble they make human mistakes. Topalov would surely not have played like this speculatively against an engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nemozyne: &#8220;And Vallejo was not in time trouble when he incomprehensibly chose to not play 24… 0-0-0 – which would have solved a lot of his subsequent problems, while providing more firepower.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not so incomprehensible I think. With 22.Ne2 and 24.Qe3 Topalov attacked the black pawn on e5. I assume that Vallejo considered 24&#8230;0-0-0 but saw that after 25.Rxf5 Bxf5 26.Bxe5 he would lose the e5 pawn and was not sure how to evaluate the position (probably still a bit better for black).</p>
<p>Next I assume that Vallejo found 24&#8230; Na4 as a way to get rid of one of the attackers of e5. Vallejo may have missed that the queen could also go 25.Qh6, but perhaps he did see it and accurately assessed that black would still be a bit better after 25&#8230; Kd7, and even won again after Topalov&#8217;s 26.Rxf5?!</p>
<p>What Vallejo probably did not see (or he would have played it) was the best move to counter Topalov&#8217;s attack on e5: 24&#8230;Qd6! The point is that after 25.Rxf5 Bxf5 26.Bxe5? black would win with the beautiful 26&#8230;Nc4!</p>
<p>Of course my engine found the last variant for me. I can only admire the very brave play from both Topalov and Vallejo. But perhaps the above explains the &#8220;incomprehensible&#8221; 24&#8230;0-0-0. These are human players and especially in time trouble they make human mistakes. Topalov would surely not have played like this speculatively against an engine.</p>
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		<title>By: gg</title>
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		<dc:creator>gg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n score in Wijk, where Topalov had a minus, and Anand had Bilbao 2008 and showed nothing special in his latest events either. Carlsen hasn&#039;t had a minus result in a top event since 2007 and keeps playing 2800 chess every time he turns up, quite amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n score in Wijk, where Topalov had a minus, and Anand had Bilbao 2008 and showed nothing special in his latest events either. Carlsen hasn&#8217;t had a minus result in a top event since 2007 and keeps playing 2800 chess every time he turns up, quite amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: gg</title>
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		<dc:creator>gg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Carlsen has been uninteruptedly over 2760 since April 2008. That is almost 2 years. He is already there in the absolute elite, and he is there to stay.&quot;

Yeah, the fun thing is that it is always Carlsen that isn&#039;t consistent enough compared to Topalov and Kramnik. Doesn&#039;t matter that Kramnik had a minus in Dortmund 2008 and an eve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Carlsen has been uninteruptedly over 2760 since April 2008. That is almost 2 years. He is already there in the absolute elite, and he is there to stay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, the fun thing is that it is always Carlsen that isn&#8217;t consistent enough compared to Topalov and Kramnik. Doesn&#8217;t matter that Kramnik had a minus in Dortmund 2008 and an eve</p>
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		<title>By: Nemozyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemozyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Vallejo was not in time trouble when he incomprehensibly chose to not play 24... 0-0-0 - which would have solved a lot of his subsequent problems, while providing more firepower.

Must confess I&#039;m warming to Topalov&#039;s playing - bold and with variety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Vallejo was not in time trouble when he incomprehensibly chose to not play 24&#8230; 0-0-0 &#8211; which would have solved a lot of his subsequent problems, while providing more firepower.</p>
<p>Must confess I&#8217;m warming to Topalov&#8217;s playing &#8211; bold and with variety.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nemozyne: &quot;Topalov has to contend with Anand, who won’t be in time trouble at move 31&quot;
I was about to write the same (mostly referring to comments in the previous round 5 thread), you beat me by a few minutes :) . Grischuk, Vallejo and Kamsky frequently get into time trouble - often their own &quot;choice&quot;, not only against Topalov, not that much related to problems posed by the opponent. As a matter of fact, Vallejo (yesterday) and Kamsky (in his final match game against Topa) mostly created the complications - to reach promising positions which cost them too much time on the clock and put them in blunder-prone situations. Topalov was rather holding (on a thin line) during most of the respective games - don&#039;t get me wrong: this is also a (champion&#039;s) quality!

But implications for the match against Anand are limited at best, Vishy hardly ever gets into time trouble. We may also see a different Topalov at the match: less gambling, playing his main openings rather than secondary lines (h3 against the Najdorf, English opening).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nemozyne: &#8220;Topalov has to contend with Anand, who won’t be in time trouble at move 31&#8243;<br />
I was about to write the same (mostly referring to comments in the previous round 5 thread), you beat me by a few minutes <img src='http://www.chessvibes.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  . Grischuk, Vallejo and Kamsky frequently get into time trouble &#8211; often their own &#8220;choice&#8221;, not only against Topalov, not that much related to problems posed by the opponent. As a matter of fact, Vallejo (yesterday) and Kamsky (in his final match game against Topa) mostly created the complications &#8211; to reach promising positions which cost them too much time on the clock and put them in blunder-prone situations. Topalov was rather holding (on a thin line) during most of the respective games &#8211; don&#8217;t get me wrong: this is also a (champion&#8217;s) quality!</p>
<p>But implications for the match against Anand are limited at best, Vishy hardly ever gets into time trouble. We may also see a different Topalov at the match: less gambling, playing his main openings rather than secondary lines (h3 against the Najdorf, English opening).</p>
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		<title>By: Nemozyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemozyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Topalov can bring his wins past move 40 with plenty of time to spare, while reducing his opponents to making ten moves in a minute -- that means he is posing some serious problems to them over the board. That&#039;s not luck.

On the other hand, after taking chances with sac&#039;s Topalov has been in precarious situations, and if his opponents hadn&#039;t painted themselves into corners, it&#039;s not a given that he&#039;d be notching wins.

I haven&#039;t seen a boring position in any of his games, and that alone means he gets quite a lot of support from this corner! One day, he and Carlsen will meet across a board - but before then, Topalov has to contend with Anand, who won&#039;t be in time trouble at move 31 ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Topalov can bring his wins past move 40 with plenty of time to spare, while reducing his opponents to making ten moves in a minute &#8212; that means he is posing some serious problems to them over the board. That&#8217;s not luck.</p>
<p>On the other hand, after taking chances with sac&#8217;s Topalov has been in precarious situations, and if his opponents hadn&#8217;t painted themselves into corners, it&#8217;s not a given that he&#8217;d be notching wins.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen a boring position in any of his games, and that alone means he gets quite a lot of support from this corner! One day, he and Carlsen will meet across a board &#8211; but before then, Topalov has to contend with Anand, who won&#8217;t be in time trouble at move 31 &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ebutaljib</title>
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		<dc:creator>ebutaljib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlsen has been uninteruptedly over 2760 since April 2008. That is almost 2 years. He is already there in the absolute elite, and he is there to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlsen has been uninteruptedly over 2760 since April 2008. That is almost 2 years. He is already there in the absolute elite, and he is there to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys tournaments are not won on luck ... Carlsen is amazing, but he is yet to prove that he can hold that level long enough. I think that separates Topalov, Kramnik and Anand from all others since Kasparov left the scene ... they maintain the high level and we see no ups and downs like with the rest of the 27xx pack. I still think that trio is still the best among the super-GMs. Only time will show if Carlsen and the other young players can stay in the limelight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys tournaments are not won on luck &#8230; Carlsen is amazing, but he is yet to prove that he can hold that level long enough. I think that separates Topalov, Kramnik and Anand from all others since Kasparov left the scene &#8230; they maintain the high level and we see no ups and downs like with the rest of the 27xx pack. I still think that trio is still the best among the super-GMs. Only time will show if Carlsen and the other young players can stay in the limelight.</p>
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		<title>By: CAL&#124;Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>CAL&#124;Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and next you&#039;re going to tell me Topalov hasn&#039;t been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and next you&#8217;re going to tell me Topalov hasn&#8217;t been.</p>
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