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Reports | November 15, 2010 3:07

Aronian & Karjakin share win at Tal Memorial

Unofficial: Aronian & Karjakin share win at Tal MemorialAt the Tal Memorial in Moscow Mamedyarov lost to Gelfand today, allowing Aronian and Karjakin to catch him in the standings. It still has to be communicated officially, but we can safely say that Aronian and Karjakin are sharing the win at this year's Tal Memorial according to the tiebreak rules. Update: these results have now been confirmed at the closing ceremony.

General info

The traditional Tal Memorial tournament takes place 4-14 November in the GUM Exhibition Hall on Red Square, Moscow. Aronian (ARM, 2801), Kramnik (RUS, 2791), Alexander Grischuk (RUS 2771), Shakhriyar Mamedyarov (AZE, 2763), Sergey Karjakin (RUS, 2760), Pavel Eljanov (UKR, 2742), Boris Gelfand (ISR, 2741), Hikaru Nakamura (USA, 2741), Alexei Shirov (ESP, 2735) and Wang Hao (CHN, 2727) play a single round-robin. More info here.

Round 9 report

This year's Tal Memorial saw one of the craziest last rounds we've ever witnessed at a tournament. Shakhriyar Mamedyarov, who had played such fine games so far, lost to Boris Gelfand, who wasn't exactly in his best form here. Vladimir Kramnik, known as a solid player, sacrificed a piece and then another exchange against Alexei Shirov, and won. Sergey Karjakin was completely lost against Wang Hao, but somehow didn't lose. And Hikaru Nakamura reached a winning position against Alexander Grischuk, then let it slip away, then was winning again, and then blew it a second time, in the last (and longest) game of the tournament.

Mamedyarov's handling of the Grünfeld looked suspicious, but in fact Black was probably alright after the opening. He even got some initiative on the kingside but then the Azeri was too optimistic - or he just played for a win too long, however you want to put it. An unsound pawn sacrifice suddenly led to nothing, except for a rook ending a pawn down, which Mamedyarov soon resigned.

Boris Gelfand

We have audio clips with both players.

Gelfand:
[audio:http://www.chessvibes.com/audio/talmem10/r9/r9_gelfand.mp3]

Mamedyarov:
[audio:http://www.chessvibes.com/audio/talmem10/r9/r9_mamedyarov.mp3]

From this moment the calculating started. Who would win the tournament in case of a tie? What ties exactly were possible? What were the tiebreak rules? Nothing was written down anywhere, and so we checked one more time with chief arbiter Geurt Gijssen, who had announced them at the start of the first round:

Tiebreak rules, in descending order
1. Direct encounter
2. Koya-system (the number of points achieved against all opponents who have achieved 50% or more)
3. SB
4. Number of won games

Levon Aronian never had a serious chance to play for a win against Pavel Eljanov, but in the end finished shared first anyway. Here's a brief comment from Armenia's number one:
[audio:http://www.chessvibes.com/audio/talmem10/r9/r9_aronian.mp3]

Kramnik-Shirov

The third to end on 5.5/9, or "plus two", was Sergei Karjakin, who survived a completely lost position against Wang Hao. Here's his comment on a crazy game:

[audio:http://www.chessvibes.com/audio/talmem10/r9/r9_karjakin.mp3]

Wang Hao & Karjakin

Vladimir Kramnik managed to finish a disappointing tournament with a victory. In a Cambridge Springs the board caught fire just after the twentieth move, where according to the Russian it was his opponent who could play for a win, until 22...g5. Soon after, it seemed Kramnik was paying tribute to Mikhail Tal, as for a moment he was a full rook down. The complications proved too difficult for Shirov to defend. Audio clip with Kramnik:
[audio:http://www.chessvibes.com/audio/talmem10/r9/r9_kramnik.mp3]

Kramnik-Shirov

Hikaru Nakamura needed a few drinks after his game with Alexander Grischuk. Before the game the American had decided to go all or nothing, and went for the Leningrad Dutch again. However, not once but twice did he threw away a winning position - the second time with only a few pieces and pawns left on the board - finally allowing his opponent to escape with a draw in a queen ending. This dramatic moment can still be seen on the offical site's video feed, by the way (scroll to 21:52).

Grischuk-Nakamura

The tiebreak rules led to a shared victory for Aronian and Karjakin. The direct encounter rule saw all draws between Aronian, Karjakin and Mamedyarov and the Koya system also gave the same results for all three. Aronian and Karjakin had the same number of SB points, but more than Mamedyarov, so he fell off. Because the number of wins was the same too for Aronian and Karjakin (they both beat Kramnik and Gelfand) the tiebreak couldn't point out a winner. So, although it hasn't officially been announced yet, the 2010 Tal Memorial ended in a joint victory for Aronian and Karjakin (the 1st-3rd prizes were split by the three players on 5.5 points). Update: these results have now been confirmed at the closing ceremony.

From Tuesday till Thursday all participants except for Shirov will play in the World Blitz Championship, where they will be joined by Magnus Carlsen, Teimour Radjabov, Ruslan Ponomariov, Peter Svidler, Sergei Movsesian, Ian Nepomniachtchi, Fabiano Caruana, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, Dmitry Andreikin, Rauf Mamedov, Boris Grachev and Boris Savchenko.

Games round 9

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Brian Wall's picture

Great last round - the whole tournament was awesome and every single player is sure he could have done much better.

Bobbo's picture

Terrible tournament for Kramnik. Is his glory days over?

iLane's picture

50% is not THAT terrible, but just not good enough.

christos (greece)'s picture

The Bilbao Masters Final took place October 9th-15th 2010. It is the only category 22 tournament ever played. Kramnik won this tournament.

ebutaljib's picture

It was the 2nd category 22 tournament ever played. First one was in Frankfurt 1998 when Anand won ahead of Kramnik, Kasparov and Ivanchuk.

christos (greece)'s picture

You are talking about a rapid tournament.
I was talking about the only standard time control, FIDE rated, category 22, tournament ever played. It was Bilbao Masters 2010

R.Mutt's picture

He won Bilbao last month and now his TPR is 2754, yeah his glory days are over.

Thomas's picture

Yeah, the glory days of Bilbao are (temporarily?) over for Kramnik, but he is probably still happier with his tournament than Shirov - whose last glory days were in Shanghai, "ages ago, I hardly remember":) . And this depends on their game played today, which could have had another result ... . BTW, it also decided over tournament victory: if Kramnik hadn't moved back to 50%, Mamedyarov would have been first based on the "Koya-system" (his win against Wang Hao would have made the difference).
Details, details, details, .......

bhabatosh's picture

If you finish with +0 that means you did terrible in this level !!
Kramnik is probably little bit behind Anand but ahead of everyone else.
No one wins every tournament or finish +2 always.
Kramnik is a legend . so stop wasting time thinking he is done.

ebutaljib's picture

By those criteria there is also a share for 4th place between Grischuk and Nakamura.

Jeff's picture

I think Nakamura will win the upcoming Blitz.

V's picture

Right after ChessVibes, ChessBase in it's turn says that there are only two winners - Aronian and Karjakin. While the official website congrats Mamedyarov as well. Strange enough!

Peter Doggers's picture

The editor of the official website might not have been aware of the quite complicated tiebreak rules. And Chessbase either had contact with the arbiter, or, more likely, they trusted ChessVibes in this one.

ebutaljib's picture

Do not trust official sites. In 2009 edition of the King's tournament the final ranking table was not right according to the tournament regulations that were displayed on the same website. Same thing also happened in Linares tournament.

If they have tiebreak criteria then they should make sure that they are displayed on the official site from the beginning of the tournament. Only some tournaments have regulations displayed, most don't. And then sometimes we have to guess what time controls are being used, and what are the tiebreak criteria in the end.

SXL's picture

Russians happen to know that TAL is points only, with co-winners. So nothing strange about it. Three co-winners this year, as in 2006. Could have been four.

V's picture

The strange thing is that both ChessVibes and ChessBase claim that there are only two winners.And I hardly can believe that they don't know the list of 2006 Tal Memorial winners :)

Peter Doggers's picture

See above. The four tiebreak rules were announced by the chief arbiter so apparently not everything from 2006 stayed the same. Money is split though.

V's picture

Thanks a lot for making it clear, Mr. Doggers.

SteinL's picture

Would be nice if Russiachess.org agreed then, wouldn't it? Or the official site (same thing.)

foo's picture

peter, On chessvibes main page when you say 'more later' why is the link named 'full story'? why not 'partial' or something more appropriate;?

We all love ur site. Its the best..so we find more reasons to complain for ;)

Chesser's picture

It's the full story about what is written in total, not the full report about the games.

Cyanide's picture

The live-feed of the event (on http://video.russiachess.org/) was thrilling this round. Watching the game of Grischuk against Nakamura became intens when Naka played 84...Qf3?? and threw away the win. Grischuk saw it immideately and started making faces before capturing on e5. Then it was Naka's time to make faces, which he did untill the repetition.....at one time he looked more like a bobble-head than a chessplayer :-)

A great event and a ton more wins than I expected with so many top players.

ebutaljib's picture
john's picture

kramnik placing 7th? wow a shocker indeed. this might light him up for the blitz tho :-)

mishanp's picture

The funny thing is if he'd won the first game against Aronian - when he had the win written down in his preparation but just mixed up two moves - then he'd have finished 1st and Aronian 7th.

fgdfd's picture

Yeah, and if Eljanov and Shirov hadn't thrown away obvious draws he would have finished with an even worse result.

Zeblakov's picture

"If" my grand father is still alive, he could be 110 years old.

philidor_position's picture

when does the blitz start exactly?

and what happened between the arbiter and Kramnik, about his talk with Grischuk about his game? Any update on that, please?

V's picture

Peter, you must be wrong, there are no tie-break rules at the Tal Memorial.

Peter Doggers's picture

Hmm... I've been at the tournament from start to finish, and had direct contact with the chief arbiter (in my own language) every day. I know what I'm doing here. :-)

Jagdish Dube.'s picture

Good Peter Doggers.!!!!Please continue doing so & enlighten us regularly.!!!!

eso es's picture

Looks like Nakamura missed a few turns in his game with Grischuk, in order to end up also on 5,5 .....

Mauricio Valdes's picture

Kramnik´s game is remarkable!

Bert de Bruut's picture

Yes, after having a lost position twice in the perhaps not-so-solid Petrof, luckily saving one against Naka who had difficulties delivering the killing blow this trounament, the ex-worldchamp seems to have decided to give Kramnik 2.0 another go. We second that!

Mauricio Valdes's picture

I second that. Kramnik defensive skills are outstanding but abusing the Petroff is not to m liking.
As well, Vlad is capable of remarkable atacking games:
Kasparov-Kramnik Dos Hermanas1996 is my favorite!
Also: his victory against Morozevich in Mexico 2007, his victory against gelfand in 1996 and the "must win or die"(or actually "must win or lose the crown") situation against Leko in 2004.

Sander's picture

Does it really matter if you are the official co-winner or not? The money is the same and so are the rating wins. And as for the prestige, we all know what these players can do...Being 3rd or 1st on the basis of some weird, arbitrary rules (except if you were 1st on actualy game points of course), really, whats the difference?

Arne Moll's picture

Yeah I agree. It hardly seems worth all the confusion, unless the winner has some special future privileges. Otherwise, who cares?! I think such complicated and abstract rules should only be in place if they have actual meaning.

Thomas's picture

Yep, not much seems to be at stake (no Bilbao invitation), maybe only who's getting the winner's trophy which, unlike the pay checks, cannot be split. Well, the winner is traditionally invited next year, does this mean that three spots for Tal Memorial 2011 are already taken? Will Aronian leave the trophy to Karjakin because he doesn't care to take it on a plane with him - not the case for his opponent? BTW, German Chessbase also mentions "three winners", another sign that their pages in different languages are rather independent from each other ... .

@ antichrist: Yep, Bilbao rules would favor Mamedyarov, but were only the fourth tiebreaker.

antichrist's picture

It's a little bit amusing that Mamedyarov would have won the tournament under the Bilbao scoring system.

Castro's picture

:-)

I thought of that too.
Svidler will win every tournament scored by crikett rules!

Mike Runyon's picture

Kramniks glory days over? ( LOL). Naka, wonderful tournament, welcome to the big leagues you deserve it!. He played vary mature chess ( for once ) too bad about the last round slip, but still well done. Look out for Karjakin, he seems to have made a leap in strength. Great tournament!.

daniel7472's picture

Indeed good chess by Nakamura. As much as I dislike his attitude, sometimes, I have enjoyed his games here. Thank you chessvibes for the reports.

Anne Stoup's picture

How the heck are you Mike? I was just thinking of you. Please contact me. I'm on Facebook.

Serge's picture

Great reporting! Thank you.
Is it possible to provide audio clips in another format? Adobe flash is not playable on apple devices.

Gigi's picture

Come on!! Kramnik saying he was playing ultra-risky with black playing the Petroff!! Give me a break!!

philidor_position's picture

his games against Nakamura and Karjakin were razor-sharp. Probably the sharpest two games of the tournament.

suleiman's picture

Peter Doggers!!! I BEG you to shoot and post here the blitz games of the big guys like Carlsen, Nakamura and Kramnik among the others as many as possible, if possible of course. The organizers maybe will not be allowing this but those rapid/blitz games that you shot & posted here between Aronian vs. Kramnik in China last September was great. I wish we could have that chance abundantly in this upcoming World Blitz Championship. I trust you!

free 6yu's picture

There was only one rest day. 4 days play then one rest, then 5 days more. Drains anyone. World Championship chess was 3 games a week (plus adjournments). Now we have play-till-drop tournaments with 7-hour sessions instead. Anand is smart not to get involved.

SteinL's picture

At Russiachess.org they have

Final Standings: 1-3 Mamedyarov, Aronian, Karjakin

I guess they're wrong? :-)

ebutaljib's picture

Currently the official site has no placing order at all (last column)

http://www.russiachess.org/content/blogcategory/187/412/

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